My Swing (Jeremie Boop)

[Jeremie Boop]

Welcome to the Mizuno family

Thanks, I am glad I went into this fitting with no ideas or any preferences because after trying so many different brands and models now I know I settled on the best possible option. Next year I'll have to break down and get some matching wedges. I wonder if anyone has any suggestions... Rofl

[billchao]

Thanks, I am glad I went into this fitting with no ideas or any preferences because after trying so many different brands and models now I know I settled on the best possible option.

That's the best way to purchase new clubs, IMO. Congrats on the new sticks.

[saevel25]

Next year I'll have to break down and get some matching wedges. I wonder if anyone has any suggestions... Rofl

[Jeremie Boop]

That's the best way to purchase new clubs, IMO. Congrats on the new sticks.

Definitely, even last year when I went looking at adding either a 4 wood or hybrid I just hit everything he had until I narrowed it down to the best option. The driver was a bit different, I went in with the mindset of buying a G30 but ended up with the Bio Cell+. I have questioned whether it is the best driver for me but I did hit it better than the G30. The strangest thing I noticed with the fitting for my irons was that I was significantly more consistent with where I was striking the ball on the clubface with the AP1 and 850 compared to the others. I wish I had taken a picture of the face tape on the 850 after I hit 6 shots in a row and you couldn't even tell I hit more than 1 ball. I had no idea that my lie angle needed to be changed, so that was a pretty big shock that I needed 3* upright change. My swing speed with the 6 iron was 90, and that was when I was still somewhat tight. Even so that does seem like it's a decent speed. I'm pretty excited, not only about getting the irons, but because I'm actually close to a fully fitted bag of clubs. This is not something I thought I'd ever actually have.

Yeah, I'm thinking that's going to be the purchase next year. The only problem is I'm super impatient and if I remember correctly it does take a bit for them to be delivered. That and the price of those wedges... just ouch man. Especially since I'll need a 50-55-60..

[billchao]

The strangest thing I noticed with the fitting for my irons was that I was significantly more consistent with where I was striking the ball on the clubface with the AP1 and 850 compared to the others. I wish I had taken a picture of the face tape on the 850 after I hit 6 shots in a row and you couldn't even tell I hit more than 1 ball.

That's a great feeling, isn't it? Just curious, did you use the Mizuno shaft optimizer? That's the same shaft that they recommended for me for that set, but I didn't end up getting the clubs. Hope they treat you well.

And let's see some more video in this thread, will ya?

[Jeremie Boop]

That's a great feeling, isn't it? Just curious, did you use the Mizuno shaft optimizer? That's the same shaft that they recommended for me for that set, but I didn't end up getting the clubs. Hope they treat you well.

And let's see some more video in this thread, will ya?

It is actually the shaft that the program recommended, funny enough. I'm planning on throwing up some videos this weekend. However, it's raining here right now so won't be recording anything tonight. I did record a couple the other night but all they showed was my backsliding

[Jeremie Boop]

DTL too shallow on the backswing and going steep on downswing. Already know the fix for this and have implemented it. FO left knee moving inward instead of staying in place so that's going to be my focus for now.

[saevel25]

DTL

I would say you could do more of what I did and get your left arm up the toe line more. That right arm looks like its getting close to being retracted a bit. I would like to see your swing stop about where I took the screen shot in the backswing. You get to long and the right arm gets behind the right side of your body. Again I would like to see the hands closer to covering the right shoulder in this picture.

*Note - Mind your camera angles. DTL Should be down the toe line, not the target line.

Face On

Not enough weight forward and too much early extension leads to this early release, and the downswing turn rates being off. See the picks of Dustin Johnson. Those positions you have are primarily because you lack weight forward and get extension way to early. You kinda half to do that because of the backswing when it get stuck like that. Think about the thread about Rory and how long he can last on his turn. He gets away with his stuck position because his hips are like 60 degrees open at impact.

I would say your backswing piece is more important right now. I would get a mirror and do backswings work. Put an alignment stick on the ground so the front end is off the toe of your right foot and extends away from the target. Then try to just turn your shoulders and feel your left arm traveling up more and not around. You can do this inside with out even hitting golf balls.

Don't get caught in just hitting a lot of balls on the range. Actually do BORING , yet MEANINGFUL practice

[Jeremie Boop]

DTL

I would say you could do more of what I did and get your left arm up the toe line more. That right arm looks like its getting close to being retracted a bit. I would like to see your swing stop about where I took the screen shot in the backswing. You get to long and the right arm gets behind the right side of your body. Again I would like to see the hands closer to covering the right shoulder in this picture.

*Note - Mind your camera angles. DTL Should be down the toe line, not the target line.

Face On

Not enough weight forward and too much early extension leads to this early release, and the downswing turn rates being off. See the picks of Dustin Johnson. Those positions you have are primarily because you lack weight forward and get extension way to early. You kinda half to do that because of the backswing when it get stuck like that. Think about the thread about Rory and how long he can last on his turn. He gets away with his stuck position because his hips are like 60 degrees open at impact.

I would say your backswing piece is more important right now. I would get a mirror and do backswings work. Put an alignment stick on the ground so the front end is off the toe of your right foot and extends away from the target. Then try to just turn your shoulders and feel your left arm traveling up more and not around. You can do this inside with out even hitting golf balls.

Don't get caught in just hitting a lot of balls on the range. Actually do BORING, yet MEANINGFUL practice

I also think that my backswing goes a little far because I let my left knee bend inward. When I keep my left knee over my foot it tends to help me stop the top of my swing sooner for some reason. This was something I had worked on last year but backslid on. And yeah, the flip, the bane of my existence when it comes to golf... One day I'll fix that. As far as my left arm on the backswing needing to be more on the toe line, that's what I was talking about when I said I knew the fix. Basically I want to have my left arm on the same line as my shoulders. At least that's the "feel" I'm using. I know the angle was a bit wrong, which was another reason i wasn't going to post a the videos, but I figured may as well through them up for something to discuss. Hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to see how that feel is working on. Also, I have yet to go to the range at all this year, I realized I went overboard just pounding golf balls last year so I'm trying not to do that this year.

[Jeremie Boop]

I've got to mow the yard, but after that I'll be posting a couple videos to see if I'm implementing the correct change in my back swing. This year I'm not going to try to rush through my improvements, I'm really going to probably focus on one thing throughout the entire season. I want to have some permanent changes this time instead of changes that disappear by the next season.

[Jeremie Boop]

Ok, these were a bit rushed. Not sure if you can tell but there was a storm coming in pretty quickly and I finished up just about 5 minutes before it started pouring. I have some ideas of issues to work on based on these but I'll refrain and wait to see what you guys say to see how far off I am.

[Jeremie Boop]

Just posting 2 grabs from the videos that have differences that stand out.

I highlighted the wrist angle because I think that may be an issue but not sure.

I'd say that's a pretty dramatic difference in the knee drift. The backswing length seems pretty consistent but I'm not sure if my hands are higher in the picture to the right or if the gap difference is due to a dipping motion because of the knee tipping inward and dropping my shoulders.

[billchao]

Just posting 2 grabs from the videos that have differences that stand out.

I highlighted the wrist angle because I think that may be an issue but not sure.

I'd say that's a pretty dramatic difference in the knee drift. The backswing length seems pretty consistent but I'm not sure if my hands are higher in the picture to the right or if the gap difference is due to a dipping motion because of the knee tipping inward and dropping my shoulders.

Your hip turn is definitely better in the new video. I recommend sticking with that until you can do it 100% of the time before moving on to another piece.

[Jeremie Boop]

Your hip turn is definitely better in the new video. I recommend sticking with that until you can do it 100% of the time before moving on to another piece.

That's pretty much what I was thinking. With the improved knee position it is actually helping keep the club shaft from going so far across my toe line. Unfortunately there's no improvement on the flip but as I work my way through these changes I figure the flip will reduce.

[billchao]

That's pretty much what I was thinking. With the improved knee position it is actually helping keep the club shaft from going so far across my toe line. Unfortunately there's no improvement on the flip but as I work my way through these changes I figure the flip will reduce.

I'm obviously no expert, but I think your flip is really a Key #1 issue. You're shifting your upper body towards the target which effectively slides the ball position back in your stance. If you didn't flip, you'd probably swing right over the ball. You have to create some secondary axis tilt to keep your head steady in the downswing. Might even feel like you're tipping your head back as you swing.

[Jeremie Boop]

I'm obviously no expert, but I think your flip is really a Key #1 issue. You're shifting your upper body towards the target which effectively slides the ball position back in your stance. If you didn't flip, you'd probably swing right over the ball. You have to create some secondary axis tilt to keep your head steady in the downswing. Might even feel like you're tipping your head back as you swing.

Yep, I have the steady head on the backswing down pat, but once I start down instead of shifting my hips forward I lean my whole body forward. I think that's what Matt mentioned above about getting my weight forward. I think I would adjust that saying to "get my weight foward the correct way".

[Jeremie Boop]

Threw together a little training aid real quick to see how it works. I will need to focus on the lead knee flex going straight and this training aid should help me with weight forward without. That way I can focus on the lead knee and axis tilt at the same time without actually thinking about 2 things at the same time.

I can clearly see the improved holding of angles without the ball, however with the ball I still have a bit of throw there. Also, after impact position I'm allowing the club to pass my hands. I won't worry about that just yet because that may fix itself as I become more comfortable with the new positions I'm in through the swing. One thing I have to say is it's crazy how just having that alignment rod there forces me to shift my weight correctly so quickly without a thought.

[Jeremie Boop]

Wow... definitely going to be using this homemade training aid for the foresee-able future. The only thing I worry is how long will it take to actually become a permanent change, or if it ever will. My fear with training aids is always that without it there my swing will just revert back.