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  uno6518 said:

Leaving a few very specific ideas without clarification or suggestions on how to get there isn't really instruction, especially if you are going to then assume that a beginner, even on this forum, knows what to do with that. These myswing threads are great because the people on this site are happy to help golfers get on a good path with a good plan. Beyond just the golf swing X's and O's on this site, there are a lot of great teachers, and much to learn about giving quality instruction.

I don't give instruction,mainly because it's not desired by admin but also because it becomes the focus of attention rather than the OP and his swing,being you in this case.

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  freedrop said:
I don't give instruction,mainly because it's not desired by admin but also because it becomes the focus of attention rather than the OP and his swing,being you in this case.

To be fair, you've never given instruction, you make generic statements and quote pros without actually saying anything that anyone can apply to their own swings. Now you just make statements on people's swing threads that don't have anything to do with their swings which attracts more attention and completely derails the discussion. Don't play the victim card, you're not the victim, here. @uno6518 , I'm sorry this post had nothing to do with your swing, but I'm on my phone ATM, I'm more than happy to help you later if you'd like.

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  billchao said:
@uno6518, I'm sorry this post had nothing to do with your swing, but I'm on my phone ATM, I'm more than happy to help you later if you'd like.

No worries! I'm open ears


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I see a pretty solid backswing up to near the top and then the club head pointing right of the target at the top.  Looks to me like that's related to pretty stiff wrists and not much lag, even at the top.  I know you can play solid golf with a more sweeping stroke rather than more of a deep lag and whip approach.

I mention it cause I tend to play with wrists that are too stiff and also often get to the top pointing too far right of target and they feel related to me.  In my swing at least it's related to trying to make sure the club head gets closed even though I really struggle with not pushing my hip center towards the ball.  I think that's related cause when I'm doing that my core is directing energy more towards right center instead of center, so it's only really encouraging the club face to close to push or push fade level, so I then tend to stiffen the wrists to try to force it more closed to compensate.  Like you're working on now, I also sometimes stick my right elbow out too far, I think to give more power behind the close the face with the arms move.  It looks to me like you do this a bit too.  The point in the trees visible past your left hip at A7 (impact) is a good bit closer to the ball than the point in the trees visible past your right hip at A4.

Mike already made his top priority recommendation, but maybe slightly looser wrists and the butt against the wall drill are also things to consider at some point?

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  mdl said:

I see a pretty solid backswing up to near the top and then the club head pointing right of the target at the top.  Looks to me like that's related to pretty stiff wrists and not much lag, even at the top.  I know you can play solid golf with a more sweeping stroke rather than more of a deep lag and whip approach.

I mention it cause I tend to play with wrists that are too stiff and also often get to the top pointing too far right of target and they feel related to me.  In my swing at least it's related to trying to make sure the club head gets closed even though I really struggle with not pushing my hip center towards the ball.  I think that's related cause when I'm doing that my core is directing energy more towards right center instead of center, so it's only really encouraging the club face to close to push or push fade level, so I then tend to stiffen the wrists to try to force it more closed to compensate.  Like you're working on now, I also sometimes stick my right elbow out too far, I think to give more power behind the close the face with the arms move.  It looks to me like you do this a bit too.  The point in the trees visible past your left hip at A7 (impact) is a good bit closer to the ball than the point in the trees visible past your right hip at A4.

Mike already made his top priority recommendation, but maybe slightly looser wrists and the butt against the wall drill are also things to consider at some point?


Thanks a bunch for the insight. I checked out the butt against the wall drill and there are definitely some feels described there that hit home for me. Plus, in the video, I can see my right knee coming in, and my head back, and misses I fight are huge pushes and overdraws. I will keep the priority recommendation from Mike at the top, but this drill seems very easy to spend time on at home and in the backyard--awesome stuff.

That right elbow for me also feels absolutely like a power move. I was a racquetball player for years, and having a right elbow/upper arm close to parallel to the ground (or in that area) is a pretty standard forehand set up, and feels second nature to me, so it's tough go against that.


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  uno6518 said:

Thanks! I will try to exaggerate the elbow move a bit more, but also just really start taking swings at 75% or less to quit with that over rotation. It's much tougher to do than I feel like it should be.

In golf, changing something an inch will feel like a foot, just keep up the good practice and make steady improvements like you're doing.

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