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4 minutes ago, Shindig said:

Thank you;  can you explain what's going on in the picture a bit more?  

I think what it's getting at is you don't want the left arm to be pushed up against the chest on the backswing. Instead you want some space between your upper left arm and your chest. To me, that means starting my shoulder turn earlier in the swing so the arms aren't already "across" my chest. 

Not sure if that's correct so take it with a gran of salt

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12 minutes ago, Shindig said:

Thank you;  can you explain what's going on in the picture a bit more?  

Skip to 7:55 in the video.

 

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20 minutes ago, Grizvok said:

Skip to 7:55 in the video.

 

Okay.  I think I see the difference, but I don't quite know what to do differently.

I'm playing later today, so I'm going to put this out of my head for now, and come back to it after the round. 

Also, question mostly for @iacas -- would it be appropriate for me to bring this up on Evolvr as something I'd like to work on?  Or is it something I'd work on separately from that priority work (kind of like how I eventually will get through the April monthly challenge)?

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And now I wonder if this is part of why whenever I measure driver swing speed (including when hitting a ball at the range and measuring, not just free swings) it's mid-90s but I rarely have a round with driver average over 210, and drives over 215 (regardless of average) are rare.  Driver is a 10.5 adjusted to 9.75 (setting D1, head is 10.5).

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54 minutes ago, Shindig said:

And now I wonder if this is part of why whenever I measure driver swing speed (including when hitting a ball at the range and measuring, not just free swings) it's mid-90s but I rarely have a round with driver average over 210, and drives over 215 (regardless of average) are rare.  Driver is a 10.5 adjusted to 9.75 (setting D1, head is 10.5).

I’m a god awful public speaker, but I made a short video to hopefully explain that picture a bit better and some things I did to really feel how big the difference is.

 

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So…

9 hours ago, Shindig said:

Also, question mostly for @iacas -- would it be appropriate for me to bring this up on Evolvr as something I'd like to work on?  Or is it something I'd work on separately from that priority work (kind of like how I eventually will get through the April monthly challenge)?

I'd start working on this subtly. It's going to be what you do pretty soon in Evolvr.

Don't make it your primary focus at all, but work on it a bit now and then.

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8 hours ago, Grizvok said:

I’m a god awful public speaker, but I made a short video to hopefully explain that picture a bit better and some things I did to really feel how big the difference is.

 

That did help.  And wow, even just watching it I can see the difference.  Thanks for taking the time to make that video!

1 hour ago, iacas said:

So…

I'd start working on this subtly. It's going to be what you do pretty soon in Evolvr.

Don't make it your primary focus at all, but work on it a bit now and then.

Thanks.  Will do! 

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  • 3 weeks later...

Latest swing videos (filmed yesterday morning, just sent to evolvr just now).   I haven't made any changes from @Grizvok's video, but I do occasionally make a few swings with that arm change.  I am definitely doing what is described there as the amateur style (also, you're a better public speaker than you give yourself credit for). 

 

 

 

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I'm not sure if this is valid, but it is something I don't typically see from professionals. You are pretty much forced to change your inclination to the ground in the early backswing to get into a good spot.

 

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On 7/26/2020 at 3:18 PM, Grizvok said:

I’m a god awful public speaker, but I made a short video to hopefully explain that picture a bit better and some things I did to really feel how big the difference is.

 

Thanks for posting this, this is very helpful and something I'll be working on at my next session.


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I just sent these into Evolvr, so I'm not asking for comment, so much as using this thread as a swing diary whenever I remember to do so.

 

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On 7/5/2022 at 7:59 PM, Shindig said:

I just sent these into Evolvr

Did you trim them to just the swing? 🙂

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14 minutes ago, iacas said:

Did you trim them to just the swing? 🙂

No.  I can do that now if you'd prefer that I do.

 

I added this to Evolvr, adding it here now too.  Starting point of the relevant part of the videos.

CV drill, begins 1:07

DTL drill, begins 1:17

CV full 1:10

DTL full 1:03

I'll get back in the habit of trimming these in the future. 

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On 7/6/2022 at 8:08 PM, iacas said:

Did you trim them to just the swing? 🙂

I have now!

 

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

I want to keep a diary of swing speed, 7-iron and driver, measured periodically.  I figured this thread is where I'm most likely to find the data when I go back and wonder what it was in July 2022 or whatever, and since this thread is about my swing, this is on topic.

A month or so ago, my driver swing speed was 93 mph (several swings all in the 92-94 mph range).  Today, six swings, in numerical order were 92-95-96-97-97-100.  Let's call it 96 or 97 mph.  This is after almost a full month of 3x/week Fit for Golf, getting back into speed sticks, and a month of practice from an Evolvr lesson, and some combination of each of those contributed to a better / more efficient / faster swing.  

7-iron, let's call today's measurement 70 (there were two outliers that weren't 70 or 71).  

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