"The Practice Manual" by Adam Young

[iacas]

Discuss "The Practice Manual" by Adam Young here.

[Ernest Jones]

Holy moly! Is that the Adam Young that used to post here? I was just thinking of him litterally 10 minutes ago! Right before my last post. Sorry, OT, but that is weird.

[pstvev]

I just ordered a copy off Amazon ($23.95 including tax; Prime shipping) after reading some of the reviews there.

I'm looking forward to reading it and will reply once I've finished it!

[Phil McGleno]

  pstvev said:

I just ordered a copy off Amazon ($23.95 including tax; Prime shipping) after reading some of the reviews there. I'm looking forward to reading it and will reply once I've finished it!

You overpaid for the doorstop.-Or kindling or whatever that thing is best used for. A student brought it in to the shop the other day. Said he was giving it to anyone who wanted to take it because he felt bad recycling that much paper.

[pstvev]

  Phil McGleno said:

You overpaid for the doorstop.-Or kindling or whatever that thing is best used for.

A student brought it in to the shop the other day. Said he was giving it to anyone who wanted to take it because he felt bad recycling that much paper.

Perhaps he should have sold it like-new on Amazon and made himself $15-$20.

[isukgolf]

  Phil McGleno said:

You overpaid for the doorstop.-Or kindling or whatever that thing is best used for. A student brought it in to the shop the other day. Said he was giving it to anyone who wanted to take it because he felt bad recycling that much paper.

@Phil McGleno , sorry I am a little slow on the uptake ... I guessing you have looked at the book and don't care much for it? Or you do not care that much for the author?

[Ernest Jones]

I read his e-book, Golf Hacks, yesterday. It wasn't terrible, but it was all stuff I've already read or seen taught by somebody else.

[Phil McGleno]

  isukgolf said:

@Phil McGleno , sorry I am a little slow on the uptake ... I guessing you have looked at the book and don't care much for it? Or you do not care that much for the author?

Waste of paper, waste of money. I am sure the author is a fine young man.

[sinned123]

I got the book and started reading it. I like the concept of not putting a golfer into a "BOX"....Everyone has their own swing, flat,loopy,upright, feet still, feet active,long backswing, short backswing, etc...etc..The author goes on to show a myriad of different golfers with different swings,all making tons of money and collecting big time hardware.His point being that understanding clubface and path are very important factors to scoring. Most of us practice wrong. We look great doing it though, and we don't get that much better because of it. If we practice more with a purpose and a game plan, we'd get much more out of the session.I fall into that category. I'm a 14-15 handicapper.I look GREAT on the range with a beautiful swing.(Thank you to my very first coach/pro Mario, RIP sir.).But I've been practicing since to be 'meh'. Yesterday, I tried for the first time time to work on some things the book talked about in the first couple of chapters.Club face and path. I've had 3 lessons w/ Mike Breed last year and he discussed this very same philosophy with me. I just either couldn't get it or didn't want to get it. BECAUSE I WAS MAKING SHIT SHOTS WITH THIS METHOD ON THE RANGE !!!. ..I wasted time and good money with Breed because I wanted instant gratification and when I didn't get it I didn't stay with it.

Now reading the book I'm getting it.I'll practice with a different mindset now, one I should've been doing for the past year.

I like the book so far. It's easy to comprehend, and the author has a good website with interesting articles.

It's all about understanding the clubface and path,the instant your club makes contact with the ball....hopefully I have the skill to get my handicap down to an 11.....or even lower !!!

[Phil McGleno]

  sinned123 said:

I got the book and started reading it. I like the concept of not putting a golfer into a "BOX"....Everyone has their own swing, flat,loopy,upright, feet still, feet active,long backswing, short backswing, etc...etc..The author goes on to show a myriad of different golfers with different swings,all making tons of money and collecting big time hardware.His point being that understanding clubface and path are very important factors to scoring. Most of us practice wrong. We look great doing it though, and we don't get that much better because of it. If we practice more with a purpose and a game plan, we'd get much more out of the session.I fall into that category. I'm a 14-15 handicapper.I look GREAT on the range with a beautiful swing.(Thank you to my very first coach/pro Mario, RIP sir.).But I've been practicing since to be 'meh'. Yesterday, I tried for the first time time to work on some things the book talked about in the first couple of chapters.Club face and path. I've had 3 lessons w/ Mike Breed last year and he discussed this very same philosophy with me. I just either couldn't get it or didn't want to get it. BECAUSE I WAS MAKING SHIT SHOTS WITH THIS METHOD ON THE RANGE !!!. ..I wasted time and good money with Breed because I wanted instant gratification and when I didn't get it I didn't stay with it.   Now reading the book I'm getting it.I'll practice with a different mindset now, one I should've been doing for the past year.  I like the book so far. It's easy to comprehend, and the author has a good website with interesting articles.  It's all about understanding the clubface and path,the instant your club makes contact with the ball....hopefully I have the skill to get my handicap down to an 11.....or even lower !!!

Glad you like it but it should not have taken a 300 page tome of a book about PRACTICE to get you to understand this. Not to speak for them but I think the keys 4 and 5 are path and face, and the others have to do with contact. There is a thread here on how to practice properly too.-Let us see yes here it is: [CONTENTEMBED=/t/54840/simple-specific-slow-short-and-success-the-five-s-s-of-great-practice layout=inline]​[/CONTENTEMBED]

[sinned123]

wow Phil, thank good you don't have any agendas or else you'd really be pissed.

I have spent a day @ Metedeconk wit h Eric and yes, I even spent the 24$+/- on the lowest score wins. It's not a bad thing to see other perspectives.

I thought most players w/ a plus handicap were hmmm, what's that word???...oh yeah, I've found it.....Pompous....glad you didn't disappoint me.

[Phil McGleno]

  sinned123 said:

wow Phil, thank good you don't have any agendas or else you'd really be pissed.

No agenda here. Just do not like the book. I can not find it interesting that you did not know that you had to practice things before you took them to the course? That you had to control your clubface and path?

  sinned123 said:

I have spent a day @ Metedeconk with Eric and yes, I even spent the 24$+/- on the lowest score wins. It's not a bad thing to see other perspectives.

What does that have to do with anything? I have no allegiance to Erik (he does not like being called Eric-He has mentioned it to me twice or ten times). I am expressing my surprise that it took a super heavy thick dense-In More ways than one-book to make you realize that you had to practice. That you thought you could get instant gratification in GOLF?

  sinned123 said:

I thought most players w/ a plus handicap were hmmm, what's that word???...oh yeah, I've found it.....Pompous....glad you didn't disappoint me.

Hey it is not like I called you an idiot. I just said I was surprised it took you buying a twenty pound tome to realize that you had to practice and things would not instantly get better for you.

You do not even need this site or Erik or Mike or LSW to tell you that-Should be obvious I would think.

[Ernest Jones]

I enjoyed LSW, I'm rereading it while having a salad for lunch.

[Adam Young]

Hi guys,

Just came across this. Feel free to ask any questions and I will try my best to answer them.

And for those who are looking to Phil McGleno for an unbiased review - I wouldn't count on it. The guy has a personal vendetta against me (to each their own), hence the instant bashing of the book without any knowledge of its contents.

Ernest - yes, the free Ebook is what it is (free) and aimed more towards less info-seeking golfers. The Practice Manual is a very different animal - more for the serious golfer who wants to know more in depth details about how to link the motor learning research to practical applications.

Sinned said "Now reading the book I'm getting it.I'll practice with a different mindset now, one I should've been doing for the past year"

That was the main goal of the book. I also wanted to look at skill development strategies as opposed to pure technical work. Skills are often

As I said, I will be happy to answer any questions and offer more details

Adam Young

[Phil McGleno]

  Adam Young said:

And for those who are looking to Phil McGleno for an unbiased review - I wouldn't count on it. The guy has a personal vendetta against me (to each their own), hence the instant bashing of the book without any knowledge of its contents.

No I do not. I would love to know where you got your psychology degree though. You are too young to have a lot of experience and you have bounced around from job to job. Turnberry for a few months and that did not work and so you went elsewhere. I have plenty of insight into the contents of your book. I see your facebook posts and I have read many of the pages of your book. The copy I mentioned in my first post is 20 feet from me. Oddly it is propping open my door-Not intentionally but I seem to have misplaced my rubber stopper here in the shop. Cover is a bit too slippery so a draft will still close the door a bit. Gotta teach a lesson now but I can certainly offer more of my thoughts later if you want. But cool it on the accusations. I am sure I got into it with you in the past-I do not think you would make up your statement above-but I do not go around saying you have a vendetta against me. It is just golf chit chat young man.

[Abu3baid]

@Adam Young can you tell me what I should expect to get out of this book if I decided to read it?

[Adam Young]

Phil, I have actually been at the same academies for almost 8 years now. My 8 month stint at Turnberry (poor me) was due to a visa issue. So I would rather you didn't make assumptions about my professional career in front of others whose opinions may be influenced. Abu - It's a pretty big book and covers many different topics, from How we learn How to practice for technical adjustments How to practice for skill development How to practice for performance How to transfer your game to the course Goal setting and quantifiable practice How to use statistics during practice to knock shots off your game How attention (where you place your focus) affects both learning and retention (as well as performance under pressure). How to schedule your practice effectively over the course of a day, week, month or even year (important for tournament players) And much more. I will be open and say that the book is not for everyone. If you are a 28 handicap looking for a quick fix, I would look elsewhere. However, although the book is not for everyone, everyone will get something of value out of the book. - Even if that means using it as a doorstop because you had a disagreement with the author 3 years ago

[Abu3baid]

  Adam Young said:

Phil, I have actually been at the same academies for almost 8 years now. My 8 month stint at Turnberry (poor me) was due to a visa issue. So I would rather you didn't make assumptions about my professional career in front of others whose opinions may be influenced. Your lack of professionalism clearly shines in this thread. Abu - It's a pretty big book and covers many different topics, from How we learn How to practice for technical adjustments How to practice for skill development How to practice for performance How to transfer your game to the course Goal setting and quantifiable practice How to use statistics during practice to knock shots off your game How attention (where you place your focus) affects both learning and retention (as well as performance under pressure). How to schedule your practice effectively over the course of a day, week, month or even year (important for tournament players) And much more. I will be open and say that the book is not for everyone. If you are a 28 handicap looking for a quick fix, I would look elsewhere. However, although the book is not for everyone, everyone will get something of value out of the book. - Even if that means using it as a doorstop because you had a disagreement with the author 3 years ago

Thank you for your reply.. I'm especially interested in the part about transferring my game to the course.. Those all seem to be very legitimate and important topics concerning golf.. I'll look into it soon, thanks.