Lead with right elbow? Closing he door?

[Dave325]

I probably shouldn't be looking on the Internet for golf stuff... But curiosity is an element that bit me here I was looking around at some of the other forums and ran into something called "leading with the right elbow" and "closing the door".... After trying to figure out what the heck they were talking about for awhile... I abandoned the cause after it started to make my head hurt. (Note: posted under golf talk, and not instruction and tips).... But I don't know much about this game anyway. Has anyone heard about this? I know there are a lot of strange teaching techniques out there... Just curious, since I couldn't figure it out.

[saevel25]

5 minutes ago, Dave325 said:

I probably shouldn't be looking on the Internet for golf stuff... But curiosity is an element that bit me here I was looking around at some of the other forums and ran into something called "leading with the right elbow" and "closing the door".... 

The "closing the door" comes from people advocating releasing the club. People should feel or should actually open the club on the backswing and close it going into impact. 

The club will naturally release if you do other things well. 
http://thesandtrap.com/forums/topic/30392-advice-i-hate-release-the-club/?do=findComment&comment=755415

The right elbow thing looks to be more of a feel. Sometimes golfers focus on one area of the body to get something to work. Like, I like to feel like my right side and right hip gets past the ball sooner in the swing. It doesn't happen, but it helps me get better turn rates. 

 

[Ernest Jones]

Hard to say without reading the source material. Could be a feel to help develope more pitch elbow. Generally speaking, when viewed DTL at A5, you want your trail (right for a righty) elbow lower that your lead elbow. This helps shallow the club and keep you swinging outwards. 

[scopek]

Here is a video of a guy, Monte Scheinblum, who advocates leading with the right elbow. A lot of golfers swear by this guy. 

 

 

[Dave325]

5 hours ago, scopek said:

Here is a video of a guy, Monte Scheinblum, who advocates leading with the right elbow. A lot of golfers swear by this guy. 

 

 

Ah,yes. That's it. Thiese are a couple interesting videos. I am going to try out the thoughts in that first video... I think that might help me with my problem of an early extension and not keeping a bent elbow up through impact. Thanks for sharing that. 

Erik mentioned something in an article about finding the root cause of an issue... This might just be my root cause that I haven't thought about.

[iacas]

2 hours ago, Dave325 said:

Ah,yes. That's it. Thiese are a couple interesting videos. I am going to try out the thoughts in that first video... I think that might help me with my problem of an early extension and not keeping a bent elbow up through impact. Thanks for sharing that. 

Erik mentioned something in an article about finding the root cause of an issue... This might just be my root cause that I haven't thought about.

You're working with evolvr, yes, Dave?

Seems to me guessing that this "might just be my root cause" and that you're going to "try out the… video" is not the way to go. Trust in what you're doing with evolvr or cancel the service.

You can't go around hunting for your own solutions. You've got a great instructor helping you right now, already.

[Dave325]

2 hours ago, iacas said:

You're working with evolvr, yes, Dave?

Seems to me guessing that this "might just be my root cause" and that you're going to "try out the… video" is not the way to go. Trust in what you're doing with evolvr or cancel the service.

You can't go around hunting for your own solutions. You've got a great instructor helping you right now, already.

Ok, Erik. That makes sense. I'll stay with what my Evolvr coach is directing. I was trying to stay with the same concepts (not chasing something different or a different voice)... just looking for supplemental help to what my swing coach has been saying to me already. I just have been running into a mental block with my right elbow. But thanks for the direction... I will do as you stay on the same road with Evolvr. I'm trying to be a good student of the game.

[iacas]

Ah, yes, the right elbow stuff.

Not to get off topic, but just make yourself DO IT. I don't care if the ball goes ten feet. Just do it, then slowly work up the speed until you can do it faster and faster. Slowly. Work. Up. The. Speed.

[Dave325]

45 minutes ago, iacas said:

Ah, yes, the right elbow stuff.

Not to get off topic, but just make yourself DO IT. I don't care if the ball goes ten feet. Just do it, then slowly work up the speed until you can do it faster and faster. Slowly. Work. Up. The. Speed.

Ok, gotcha. I will do that. Thanks for the advice. I appreciate you keeping me on the straight and narrow. Much thanks!

[DaveP043]

On 1/4/2016 at 8:52 AM, Dave325 said:

I probably shouldn't be looking on the Internet for golf stuff... 

I didn't want to offer any technical advice, because I'm not a very technical guy.  What I will do is to point out that you were right in the very first sentence of your post here.

Good luck, keep practicing the right things the right way, and you'll make progress.

[Dave325]

2 hours ago, DaveP043 said:

I didn't want to offer any technical advice, because I'm not a very technical guy.  What I will do is to point out that you were right in the very first sentence of your post here.

Good luck, keep practicing the right things the right way, and you'll make progress.

Thanks, Dave. Yeah, I agree.... I am always my worst enemy with overthinking everything... and looking for that magic bullet.  

[scopek]

5 minutes ago, Dave325 said:

Thanks, Dave. Yeah, I agree.... I am always my worst enemy with overthinking everything... and looking for that magic bullet.  

We all do it. I've struggled with tinkering with my swing for years and it really held me back. It wasn't until I just decided to become a "stupid monkey" (not sure that terms is used here anymore) that I started making "real" progress. It's slow, but it takes time to ingrain real change. 

[iacas]

10 minutes ago, scopek said:

We all do it. I've struggled with tinkering with my swing for years and it really held me back. It wasn't until I just decided to become a "stupid monkey" (not sure that terms is used here anymore) that I started making "real" progress. It's slow, but it takes time to ingrain real change. 

It's still used here. We're just waiting on the new awards system to come out of beta.

[Dave325]

24 minutes ago, scopek said:

We all do it. I've struggled with tinkering with my swing for years and it really held me back. It wasn't until I just decided to become a "stupid monkey" (not sure that terms is used here anymore) that I started making "real" progress. It's slow, but it takes time to ingrain real change. 

 

 

13 minutes ago, iacas said:

It's still used here. We're just waiting on the new awards system to come out of beta.

Yes, I remember reading about the stupid monkey and completely agree. My monkey wants to wander off the plantation once in awhile. Just need to spank him and throw him back in the cage. Back on track guys.

That is the great thing that I love about TST..... you not only get encouragement and instruction... but realignment when its needed. Thanks!