2016 Rules Quiz

[rogolf]

For all you brave souls.... the 2016 MGA Rules Quiz

http://www.mgagolf.org/pdf/rules/quiz/2016

[Club Rat]

1 - 6 (player placed ball PS 2, UP 1, Tee shot 1, 2 putts)

2 - DQ both

3 - DQ

4 - D

5 - Not sure on this Q? Are caddies allowed to drop? I think it's a DQ if the caddie made the dropped.

6 - 5

7 - DQ

8 - four strokes P,

9 - A

10 - 2 PS, but player could have recreated to the best of his ability and placed the ball with no PS

I'm going to answer the rest later.

[ColinL]

I haven’t looked at it yet, but  I wonder at the speed at which you have answered 10 questions.  It’s the kind of quiz where if I think I have the answer immediately, I assume I’ve missed a hidden trap. 

[ColinL]

Can’t get the website to open at the moment.  Now there’s a grand excuse. 

 

 

Edited February 3, 2016 by ColinL

[Fourputt]

I just wish there was an answer sheet somewhere so I could really know how I did. 

Edit:  So I just looked around and found that the answers will be published on March 14.  By then I'll have forgotten all about it.

[Asheville]

2 minutes ago, Fourputt said:

I just wish there was an answer sheet somewhere so I could really know how I did. 

The answers are to be posted on March 14.

[Club Rat]

Why not post your answers and then everyone can discuss one or two questions at a time. Then we could see how the TST members score as a group.

25 questions does take a fair amount of time. I plan to complete the quiz later and post my answers.

[turtleback]

On 2/3/2016 at 7:05 PM, rogolf said:

For all you brave souls.... the 2016 MGA Rules Quiz

http://www.mgagolf.org/pdf/rules/quiz/2016

These things are fun for the cognoscenti, but I wonder if it would be a better idea for the PTB to come up with a golf quiz focusing on the simple things people need to know about the rules to play by them.  When non and casual golfers see quizzes like this we should not be surprised that they think the rules are too complex.  But a quiz that presents typical, not convoluted, rules situations is enough for most players and could serve as a kind of "What is your golf rules IQ?" kind of thing, but focused on the everyday real situations golfers face all the time, not the complexities that require rules officials to dissect.

[Dormie1360]

1 minute ago, turtleback said:

These things are fun for the cognoscenti, but I wonder if it would be a better idea for the PTB to come up with a golf quiz focusing on the simple things people need to know about the rules to play by them.  When non and casual golfers see quizzes like this we should not be surprised that they think the rules are too complex.  But a quiz that presents typical, not convoluted, rules situations is enough for most players and could serve as a kind of "What is your golf rules IQ?" kind of thing, but focused on the everyday real situations golfers face all the time, not the complexities that require rules officials to dissect.

The test is for rules nerds, no doubt.  Haven't looked at the test yet, (I'm on a vacation in PSP losing golf balls in the desert) but the questions often cover basic stuff, its just that the questions usually combine more than one "rule"  along with things that don't matter in the ruling.

 

[Fourputt]

The one thing that you really take away from a test like this is the absolute necessity of knowing the correct procedures while playing.  

Examine the situation, check off the allowable options, understand the consequences, both immediate and potential, of those options.  Then make an informed decision.  The better you know the working processes and procedures, the more likely you are to make good decisions, and the probability of getting involved in one of those convoluted rulings approaches zero.

The one thing that you really take away from a test like this is the absolute necessity of knowing the correct procedures while playing.  

Examine the situation, check off the allowable options, understand the consequences, both immediate and potential, of those options.  Then make an informed decision.  The better you know the working processes and procedures, the more likely you are to make good decisions, and the probability of getting involved in one of those convoluted rulings approaches zero.

[ColinL]

Well, I’m into the site now and had a look t the first couple of questions.  

Q1  B) 6  

Q2  A)  A scores 4; B scores 5. (No penalties involved)

It would be interesting to know under what rule  Club Rat would DQ the two players in Q2.  In my view,  the flagstick has been removed by a player in a different group and so Rule 17-3a does not apply [see Decision 17-3/3].   It is simply a movable obstruction and if struck by a ball played from off or on the green, Rule 19-1 would apply.  The players have not breached any rule by agreeing to leave it where it is; for Rule 1-3 to apply, the players have to be agreeing to something they are not permitted to do.

[Fourputt]

So far I'm with Colin on numbers 1 and 2.  

My answers for the next three:

3.  C  8
4.  D  By lot
5.  D  9

[Club Rat]

5 hours ago, ColinL said:

Club Rat would DQ the two players in Q2

My first thought was the players did agree to something they are not permitted to do.

Quote

In stroke play, they agree to leave the flagstick where it is as it could assist them.

 

[Dormie1360]

1 hour ago, Fourputt said:

So far I'm with Colin on numbers 1 and 2.  

My answers for the next three:

3.  C  8
4.  D  By lot
5.  D  9

 

My Guesses.

3. A  If the player's second drop continues with the option under 26-1b I believe there is no penalty.

4. D  Agree

5  D Edit agree.  2PS general penalty for playing the ball dropped by caddie incorrectly and 2PS playing an incorrectly substituted ball from a wrong place.

Edited February 5, 2016 by Dormie1360

[ColinL]

17 minutes ago, Club Rat said:

My first thought was the players did agree to something they are not permitted to do.

 

That would certainly be the case had either of them removed the flagstick.

[Fourputt]

38 minutes ago, Dormie1360 said:

 

My Guesses.

3. A  If the player's second drop continues with the option under 26-1b I believe there is no penalty.

4. D  Agree

5  D Edit agree.  2PS general penalty for playing the ball dropped by caddie incorrectly and 2PS playing an incorrectly substituted ball from a wrong place.

I was reading the rule as in the redrop he had to still drop in the same area as he had the first drop.   If not, then that would change the answer to A 6.

I gave up trying to sort out one of the questions, so when we get to that I will be interested in seeing how the experts managed it.  That's a long ways down the list though.

[Dormie1360]

6) C  D20-6/4

7) A Ball is not in Bunker

8) A  D13-4/30   D24/9

[Fourputt]

31 minutes ago, Dormie1360 said:

6) C  D20-6/4

7) A Ball is not in Bunker

8) A  D13-4/30   D24/9

Discuss #8.  He moved a loose impediment (the aggregate is an artificial surface, but each pebble is a loose impediment -  with his backswing while in a water hazard.  I think that should be 2 strokes so I answered B.