Spine tilt question

[craps]

Dear golf enthusiasts.

Suppose a RH golfer have: A good grip.

                                            A good stance

                                            A good pivot

We know there is forward tilt in the stance. Suppose this golfer was able to maintain consistent forward tilt throughout the swing.

The matter in question is the SIDE TILT. In order to maintain swinging in a barrel OR swinging around the spine without swaying, this golfer will have to have side tilt of the spine. On the backswing, the tilt should be towards the target or bump waist away to right and head towards the target.

On the downswing its the opposite i.e. tilt away from the target or bump waist towards target and head away from target.

So, Why is there preset of the forward spine tilt but NO preset of the side tilt at address? Can this golfer actually stand square and bump the waist away i.e to the right at address so that he can have a consistent side tilt at top of backswing?

To add to the confusion, golfers were advised to address the ball with a REVERSE K set up which totally is the opposite side tilt of a golf backswing!

 

[saevel25]

12 minutes ago, craps said:

The matter in question is the SIDE TILT. In order to maintain swinging in a barrel OR swinging around the spine without swaying, this golfer will have to have side tilt of the spine. On the backswing, the tilt should be towards the target or bump waist away to right and head towards the target.On the downswing its the opposite i.e. tilt away from the target or bump waist towards target and head away from target.

I 100% disagree.

You do not want the spine to be tilting towards the target at the top of the backswing.

[iacas]

43 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

I 100% disagree.

You do not want the spine to be tilting towards the target at the top of the backswing.

I'm with @saevel25 on this one.

I fix a LOT of swings where the spine tilts toward the target at the top.

[Jeremie Boop]

7 minutes ago, iacas said:

I'm with @saevel25 on this one.

I fix a LOT of swings where the spine tilts toward the target at the top.

I don't know anything about that at all.... 

[gregsandiego]

3 hours ago, craps said:

Dear golf enthusiasts.

Suppose a RH golfer have: A good grip.

                                            A good stance

                                            A good pivot

We know there is forward tilt in the stance. Suppose this golfer was able to maintain consistent forward tilt throughout the swing.

The matter in question is the SIDE TILT. In order to maintain swinging in a barrel OR swinging around the spine without swaying, this golfer will have to have side tilt of the spine. On the backswing, the tilt should be towards the target or bump waist away to right and head towards the target.

On the downswing its the opposite i.e. tilt away from the target or bump waist towards target and head away from target.

So, Why is there preset of the forward spine tilt but NO preset of the side tilt at address? Can this golfer actually stand square and bump the waist away i.e to the right at address so that he can have a consistent side tilt at top of backswing?

To add to the confusion, golfers were advised to address the ball with a REVERSE K set up which totally is the opposite side tilt of a golf backswing!

 

This is where talking about a complex 3 dimensional thing gets so confusing you can completely lose the meaning. I find your second paragraph hard to understand.

My understanding is you setup with a spine tilt such that you are aiming a bit upward . For  right hander this would mean tilting the top of your spine toward the right, or away from the target.

After that you just maintain that position and rotate around it. If you start to think about it through the swing I think you'll get lost in a sea of swing thoughts.

 

 

 

[craps]

Your explanation is correct that you tilt away from target at address BUT in order to rotate around spine in the back swing, the spine is actually side tilting towards target and NOT away from target.  

[boogielicious]

2 hours ago, craps said:

Your explanation is correct that you tilt away from target at address BUT in order to rotate around spine in the back swing, the spine is actually side tilting towards target and NOT away from target.  

Erik posted two photos of professional golfers that show the opposite. Please post a photo showing what you are trying to describe. 

[iacas]

5 hours ago, craps said:

Your explanation is correct that you tilt away from target at address BUT in order to rotate around spine in the back swing, the spine is actually side tilting towards target and NOT away from target.  

Your spine tilts - a little - to the "left" as the golfer turns, but that's an important distinction: "as the golfer turns." This means the spine tilts toward the ball at the top of the backswing, not toward the target.

As @boogielicious said, please illustrate what you're talking about with images or something, because we're either not understanding what you're saying or something else is going on.