When is someone a scratch golfer?

[woodzie264]

36 minutes ago, iacas said:

I don't understand that kind of thing. I don't understand this thread.

Scratch has a definition. The most variance is a stroke or half a stroke, but basically… if you're 0.4 to +0.4, roughly, you're a scratch golfer.

No other definition really makes sense.

^^^^^^^^^^ scratch has a definition - there is no, "to me it means..." As Erik stated, it's math...it's not up to interpretation.

[Jeremie Boop]

13 minutes ago, woodzie264 said:

^^^^^^^^^^ scratch has a definition - there is no, "to me it means..." As Eric stated, it's math...it's not up to interpretation.

It's a definition that only people who are interested in really being knowledgeable about golf know though. Most people don't understand that there is a difference between Par for the course and the course rating. For those people, someone who scores 72 on a par 72 course rated 69/113 is a scratch golfer because they shot par.

[woodzie264]

18 minutes ago, Jeremie Boop said:

It's a definition that only people who are interested in really being knowledgeable about golf know though. Most people don't understand that there is a difference between Par for the course and the course rating. For those people, someone who scores 72 on a par 72 course rated 69/113 is a scratch golfer because they shot par.

I understand what you're saying; a few years ago I was one of those very people ...but, respectfully, they would be wrong. 

[Jeremie Boop]

10 hours ago, woodzie264 said:

I understand what you're saying; a few years ago I was one of those very people ...but, respectfully, they would be wrong. 

Oh, I don't disagree that they are wrong, but it is easy to understand why people would have differing ideas of what constitutes a scratch golfer. For the most part, it's not worth correcting them because then you have to explain course ratings and slope to them. Really, though, it's not all that important in the long run since most people who play will never even know anyone who's a legitimate scratch golfer.

[woodzie264]

35 minutes ago, Jeremie Boop said:

Oh, I don't disagree that they are wrong, but it is easy to understand why people would have differing ideas of what constitutes a scratch golfer. For the most part, it's not worth correcting them because then you have to explain course ratings and slope to them. Really, though, it's not all that important in the long run since most people who play will never even know anyone who's a legitimate scratch golfer.

Agreed

[p1n9183]

For me a Scratch player is the one who averages around 3 over the average rating of the courses he played, that will lead in average to a 0 index.

In my case for example the course average rating of my last 20 rounds is 71,2. My average score is 76,15 so my average score related to course rating is 4,95 over. The average of my best 10 differential is 1,94.

1,94 * 0,96 = 1,824 -> 1,8 Index (In Argentina we have a different system, my handicap is 2)

I´m 1,8 index strokes from been a scratch. So if i lower my average score related to rating from 4,95 to 3 i´m certain I´ll be around 0 index and be a scratch player.