Bernie Sanders Bought a House for $600k

[drmevo]

7 hours ago, Buckeyebowman said:

HUZZAH! At least some of you are getting the point! Sanders, Hillary, and others like them constantly inveigh against the rich, while conveniently ignoring the fact that they ARE rich! They promote behaviors and pass laws for the rest of us from which they are exempt!

And that's the core of the problem, hypocrisy! I don't care that Sanders or Hillary are rich. More power to them. It's when they pretend that they are on the side of "the poor" or "the working class" when it's only about votes that my stomach turns.

Hell, this country, every country, needs rich people! Movers and shakers, innovators, risk takers. Where would this country be without the Rockefellers, Fords, Morgans, Carnegies, and others? Like my Dad used to say, "No poor man ever gave me a job!"

Why do you consider being rich and caring about poor people mutually exclusive?

[gregsandiego]

On 8/11/2016 at 8:14 PM, Buckeyebowman said:

Has anyone seen the news today? Where Bernie Sanders just purchased a $600K house on lake front property? What a hypocrite! This scuzz owns over 1 Mill in houses, but demands the "the rich" surrender their souls to the government! This dude didn't have a real job until he was 40. Where did all this money come from?

$600K is just under the median in San Diego county. I'm working on my 2nd and consider myself middle class. Not a big deal IMO.

[Valleygolfer]

On 8/13/2016 at 0:02 PM, Ernest Jones said:

I haven't read much of Bernie's policies, but I'm pretty sure he and other socialists are more concerned with corporations paying little to no taxes on multi-billion dollar profit margins. I don't think he has ever suggested that working people can't own a nice house.  In fact, I'm pretty sure he is saying that all working people should have the opportunity to own a nice house, which can't happen as long as a tiny minority of people control the vast majority of the world's wealth. 

The lack of sarcasm in this post disturbs me... It's almost like you think something will be done about this at some point.

[David in FL]

Good grief.

 There are those that consider me to be a little to the right of Donald Trump, and I'm here to say, move on, there's nothing even remotely wrong with this....

[Elmer]

1 hour ago, David in FL said:

Good grief.

 There are those that consider me to be a little to the right of Donald Trump, and I'm here to say, move on, there's nothing even remotely wrong with this....

Agree.

There are more important things to debate than real estate in VT!

[Buckeyebowman]

On 8/15/2016 at 8:26 AM, gregsandiego said:

$600K is just under the median in San Diego county. I'm working on my 2nd and consider myself middle class. Not a big deal IMO.

Yes, but that's a skewed comparison. I've been to California many times, and the one impression I've come away with is that money isn't real out there! Money has no value. It's Monopoly money!

I have friends who now live out West, and was constantly amused when they'd come home for a visit and tell me how much my house would be "worth" where they live. There's no way!

Which I think is a major part of the problem with our politicians. If you spend much time around or within the DC beltway, you don't see low wages. You don't see unemployment. You don't see urban blight. Everything is booming, so you are somewhat removed from the  reality of much of the country.

But my argument is more about "attitude". The leftist attitude that only Republicans are rich. Everyone else is poor! Only Republicans have multiple homes. Only Republican fly on private jets, yada, yada, yada! Such a load of nonsense! If you want to find where the big bucks are, look to your left!

And I didn't read Ayn Rand recently, it was about 30 years ago. Doesn't change the fact that she was right!

 

[gregsandiego]

12 minutes ago, Buckeyebowman said:

Yes, but that's a skewed comparison. I've been to California many times, and the one impression I've come away with is that money isn't real out there! Money has no value. It's Monopoly money!

I have friends who now live out West, and was constantly amused when they'd come home for a visit and tell me how much my house would be "worth" where they live. There's no way!

Which I think is a major part of the problem with our politicians. If you spend much time around or within the DC beltway, you don't see low wages. You don't see unemployment. You don't see urban blight. Everything is booming, so you are somewhat removed from the  reality of much of the country.

But my argument is more about "attitude". The leftist attitude that only Republicans are rich. Everyone else is poor! Only Republicans have multiple homes. Only Republican fly on private jets, yada, yada, yada! Such a load of nonsense! If you want to find where the big bucks are, look to your left!

And I didn't read Ayn Rand recently, it was about 30 years ago. Doesn't change the fact that she was right!

 

You make several points but I can address two.

Money is just as real. The property is more expensive by supply and demand but that doesn't make it less real.

It seems like an old fashioned notion about just Republicans being rich. Look at this presidential election for example.

 

Edited August 17, 2016 by gregsandiego

[newtogolf]

8 hours ago, gregsandiego said:

You make several points but I can address two.

Money is just as real. The property is more expensive by supply and demand but that doesn't make it less real.

It seems like an old fashioned notion about just Republicans being rich. Look at this presidential election for example.

 

Most politicians are wealthy, some are wealthy before they get into politics (Bush, Reagan, Trump) while others (Clinton, Obama, Sanders) make their money after they get into it office.  

[Elmer]

23 hours ago, newtogolf said:

Most politicians are wealthy, some are wealthy before they get into politics (Bush, Reagan, Trump) while others (Clinton, Obama, Sanders) make their money after they get into it office.  

 

On 8/17/2016 at 0:19 AM, Buckeyebowman said:

Yes, but that's a skewed comparison. I've been to California many times, and the one impression I've come away with is that money isn't real out there! Money has no value. It's Monopoly money!

I have friends who now live out West, and was constantly amused when they'd come home for a visit and tell me how much my house would be "worth" where they live. There's no way!

Which I think is a major part of the problem with our politicians. If you spend much time around or within the DC beltway, you don't see low wages. You don't see unemployment. You don't see urban blight. Everything is booming, so you are somewhat removed from the  reality of much of the country.

But my argument is more about "attitude". The leftist attitude that only Republicans are rich. Everyone else is poor! Only Republicans have multiple homes. Only Republican fly on private jets, yada, yada, yada! Such a load of nonsense! If you want to find where the big bucks are, look to your left!

And I didn't read Ayn Rand recently, it was about 30 years ago. Doesn't change the fact that she was right!

 

Name me a politician who is not more wealthy than "average" folks?
In my area new houses are being build and sold for $400K, $500K & $600,000 K, with only 1/4 acre of back yard.
I dont know where the idea that the "left" hates money. Money is required to get through life. Maybe those on the far, far left, but they also live off the grid.

I think that the "attitude" you see is filtered through your opinion. I dont get a sense of attitude as much as I see compassion.
I have friends and family on both side of the aisle, in my opinion and experience, the right decries the jobless and hungry as lazy and tells them get a job. The left asks why they dont have a job and offers to feed them until which time they can pull themselves up.
because really, would Jesus tell the tired and poor to get a job and worry about profit margin?
Even Jimmy Carter has money, however he practices what he preaches, but has a nice house!

[Buckeyebowman]

On 8/18/2016 at 8:53 AM, Elmer said:

 

Name me a politician who is not more wealthy than "average" folks?
In my area new houses are being build and sold for $400K, $500K & $600,000 K, with only 1/4 acre of back yard.
I dont know where the idea that the "left" hates money. Money is required to get through life. Maybe those on the far, far left, but they also live off the grid.

I think that the "attitude" you see is filtered through your opinion. I dont get a sense of attitude as much as I see compassion.
I have friends and family on both side of the aisle, in my opinion and experience, the right decries the jobless and hungry as lazy and tells them get a job. The left asks why they dont have a job and offers to feed them until which time they can pull themselves up.
because really, would Jesus tell the tired and poor to get a job and worry about profit margin?
Even Jimmy Carter has money, however he practices what he preaches, but has a nice house!

My attitude is filtered through what I hear people say!

True, the left doesn't hate money for themselves! But, if regular people started to get some they'd be in trouble!

Your third paragraph is just so much leftist propaganda. The left "cares"! The right is "cruel"! Don't you realize that it's all just sucking for votes? I wish I could remember who said it, but a Republican said that, "The left defines success by how many people are on food stamps. We define success by how many people no longer NEED food stamps!"

[Patch]

I think something that maybe overlooked, or otherwise not known  by younger voters is that today's media, republicans, and democrats are not like these groups were 2, or 3 decades ago. Back then it was pretty much America first, left overs for everyone else.