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In the picture my hands look.. Β far apart, or separated, or not tight.. Β or something. Β Doesn’t feel that way though.Β 
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I’d guess there’s an issue there.Β 

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15 minutes ago, iacas said:

Pretty weak. I'd likely strengthen it a bit.

Wait.. Β what? I went from possiblyΒ the most ridiculously strong grip on this site toΒ pretty weak? Β  This effin game, man. Β 

means I should probably post more. Β At some point I’d guess it was right. Β 
Β 

anyways.. Β Left hand or right hand or both is too weak?Β 

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14 minutes ago, lastings said:

In the picture my hands look.. Β far apart, or separated, or not tight.. Β or something. Β Doesn’t feel that way though.Β 
Β 

I’d guess there’s an issue there.Β 

Do you by any chance practice your grip without a club in your hands and end up using your left thumb as β€œthe club” under the right hand? Because I know a guy that used to do that and that’s how his hands ended up too far apart from each other.

Bill

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6 minutes ago, billchao said:

Do you by any chance practice your grip without a club in your hands and end up using your left thumb as β€œthe club” under the right hand? Because I know a guy that used to do that and that’s how his hands ended up too far apart from each other.

All the time. Β  Not practice, per say. Β But, you know. Β 

Ok. Β So my wife is on the mood to take pictures.. Β so.. ? Β 
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Left (top) looks pretty strong there, or, no?Β 

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10 hours ago, lastings said:

All the time. Β  Not practice, per say. Β But, you know. Β 

Ok. Β So my wife is on the mood to take pictures.. Β so.. ? Β 
Β 

Β 

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Left (top) looks pretty strong there, or, no?Β 

It would be better to see a full face on so we can see where the V in your right hand is pointing. If it is at yourΒ right shoulder, very strong. Mid collar bone, strong, ear, neutral, chin, weak.

Also, get a photo of the bottom to show your interlock or overlap and maybe a side view.

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11 hours ago, lastings said:

All the time. Β  Not practice, per say. Β But, you know. Β 

Ok. Β So my wife is on the mood to take pictures.. Β so.. ? Β 
Β 

Β 

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Left (top) looks pretty strong there, or, no?Β 

Looks like the left is too strong and the right is too weak.

Bill

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Well.. Β stuck in the house, might as well work on my swing. Β 
Β 

kinda tough getting good video in the garage. Β Gonna have to work on the DTL set up. Β But, for now, here’s what I’ve got. Β 
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16 hours ago, lastings said:

Well.. Β stuck in the house, might as well work on my swing. Β 
Β 

kinda tough getting good video in the garage. Β Gonna have to work on the DTL set up. Β But, for now, here’s what I’ve got. Β 
Β 

Β 

Β 

Try aiming the camera along your toe line for the down the line view. It’s easier to see the positions that way.

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1 hour ago, boogielicious said:

Try aiming the camera along your toe line for the down the line view. It’s easier to see the positions that way.

Will do later today.Β 

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Alright.. Β fixed up the DTL. Β Moved camera to my toe line. Β 
Β 

Β 

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18 hours ago, lastings said:

Alright.. Β fixed up the DTL. Β Moved camera to my toe line. Β 
Β 

Β 

Looks good, man. What are you working on now? What's your flight? What's your miss?

Bill

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34 minutes ago, billchao said:

Looks good, man.

Thanks.

34 minutes ago, billchao said:

What are you working on now?

have been working on Grip quite a bit.Β  Β pretty comfortable with where it is now.Β  Β mostly focused on swing speed, currently (superspeed sticks).Β  Β 

--also, chipping and putting.Β  could use some improvement there, and it's good to work on while stuck at home.

37 minutes ago, billchao said:

What's your flight? What's your miss?

medium trajectory draw with the irons.Β  Driver is pretty much dead straight.

my miss is rarely a ball flight miss (hook or slice).Β  Β I'll pull one every now and then.Β  or block a driver out to the right.Β Β Β 
but, mostly my misses are fat or thin (which I think can't be attributed to the really bad grip I was working with).Β  Β hopefully, now that I'm more comfortable with a more neutral grip and more in my fingers, I'll see some improvement there.Β  Β 

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  • 1 year later...

Back at it again. Β 
Β 

did a bit of work today and was able to video. Β Though, given the proximity of they bays at the dome, pretty much impossible to get a face on view. Β  Β  I’ll try to get one if I can ever get bay #1. Β Β 
Β 

anyways, here’s a 6i DTL.Β 
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Just looking back at this thread, and my swing from 5 years ago.. Β those suggestions from @iacasΒ made quite a bit of sense. Β 
Β 

not to say I immediately changed or even followed his suggestions. Β But, I’ve gone from a 12 handicap to a 7ish in that time and my swing has clearly changed. Β  Β And my swing is at least closer to what was suggested. Β 
Β 

changing a golf swing is hard, making changes that make you worse before you get better is even harder. Β 
I wonder if I’ll ever have the mental capacity to allow myself to be a stupid monkey. Β 

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Whatcha working on currently?

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13 hours ago, iacas said:

Whatcha working on currently?

Towards the end of the season my swing had grown a bit too far in-to-out and β€œunder the line” Β  I was playing a pretty exaggerated draw with my irons, predictably causing hooky and fat misses.

Β I can get it back on track reasonably well by just hitting the range and alternating draws and fades. Β 
Β 

then after that, hitting about 20 drivers trying to max out ball speed. Β As I work to swing faster, my attack angle tends to flatten out and my launch angle will drop to around 10 degrees. Β So, just trying to be mindful of continuing to hit up on the ball while working to increase speed. Β 
Β 

I had a few yesterday with 163 ball speed and launch angle of 13, 14 degrees, which I was super happy with.Β 

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Thanks.

Were I you I'd put a stick on the ground and feel the hands going back along it instead of "out" and then having to suck "around" so much.

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2 hours ago, iacas said:

Thanks.

Were I you I'd put a stick on the ground and feel the hands going back along it instead of "out" and then having to suck "around" so much.

Thank you. Β  Β I was thinking that first move out was looking not so appealing. Β  Β  Thanks for the input. Β I’ll get to work.Β 

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:mizuno:Β MP-H5 4-5 iron, MP-25 6-8 iron, MP-5 9-PW

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