KBS Tour 105 (Stiff) vs KBS Tour 90 (stiff) vs UST Mayima Recoil 680 (X-Flex)

[onthehunt526]

Hi guys,

I'm not switching iron heads this year. (sticking to my EXI irons this year). I'm looking at getting different shafts however. Firstly, I have to give you some background.

Last winter I was dynamically fit for all of my clubs. My first shaft that fit me the best was actually the UST Mayima Recoil 680 (X-Flex), the KBS Tour 105 was similar so I went with that... After a season of the extra 20 grams in each iron... I tend to stay smoother with the UST Mayima. I thought of going with the KBS Tour 90 as well, as I hit them pretty well as well...

So what differences would I notice between the 3 shafts (KBS Tour 90, KBS Tour 105, and UST Mayima Recoil 680) in trajectory, dispersion, etc. Do you lose some feel when you play graphite?

[Hatchman]

Hello @onthehunt526 I've done a few fitted shaft change outs for several reasons but have played the KBS Tour (.335) shafts in 110 and 90.  The graphite 680 recoil I've hit alot I believe in 82 weight that I liked with a little higher ball flight.  The KBS's for me were medium flight but held true, as true as I could hit them, that is.  I settled for a Project X graphite shaft set to change out the KBS steel set of clubs I have.   Got to load them as they seem stiffer.  Point is, the shafts felt, performed, played, differently between the weights and manufactures for me.  It was hard to decide.

[WUTiger]

10 hours ago, onthehunt526 said:

10 hours ago, onthehunt526 said:

11 hours ago, onthehunt526 said:

So what differences would I notice between the 3 shafts (KBS Tour 90, KBS Tour 105, and UST Mayima Recoil 680) in trajectory, dispersion, etc. Do you lose some feel when you play graphite?

 

 

I have the KBS Tour C-Taper 90 Light in my SLDR irons, and the KBS Tour C-Taper 105 in my Nike Vapor Speed irons; both shafts are R-flex.

The 90 Lights are a proprietary shaft made for TM, and after some sleuthing I found a tech who described the 90 Lights as similar to the Tour 90, but launching slight lower. I found the 90 Lights to be a lively shaft (positively, could sense the unloading and whether I was getting good drop) that got good height. (The SLDRs are still in competition with the X20 Tours for what goes in the bag.)

The C-Taper 105 shafts worked well in the short  irons, but I had general general trouble with the set's longer irons. The CT 105 got good height and decent spin without ballooning.

Again, fitters say the lighter C-Tapers launch a bit lower than comparable weight KBS Tours.

I have hit the KBS Tour (110) several times in iron tests, and also found it lively. Mizuno recommended I get it in Stiff-softstepped (I thank that might be a big harsh day-to-day).

@onthehunt526 asked -  Do you lose some feel when you play graphite? |

I have tried various Recoil shafts this past year, mainly in Callaway irons. The Recoils, especially the Recoil 95 or Recoil 600-series, seem to have a solid feel. The 600s are below 90 grams in weight, but don't feel feathery like earlier graphite iron shafts did.

The graphite has a certain feel, it's just a bit smoother than steel. I agree with Hatchman.

6 hours ago, Hatchman said:

Point is, the shafts felt, performed, played, differently between the weights and manufactures for me.  It was hard to decide.

(Sorry - the "quote this" function is flaky today.) 

[jandrewsgolf]

I am always a fan of the heavier stiff shaft rather than the lighter x-flex. I like the 105 KBS.