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I doubt that he'll actually design any.  I suspect that his name will be on a bunch.

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I bet he'll start out strong, but wind up designing about two or three fewer than Jack Nicklaus.

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2 hours ago, dkolo said:

I bet he'll start out strong, but wind up designing about two or three fewer than Jack Nicklaus.

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On 1/16/2017 at 1:20 PM, David in FL said:

I doubt that he'll actually design any.  I suspect that his name will be on a bunch.

Golf courses not-really-designed by the name tour pro are a problem in the industry, according to Kyle Phillips Design Co. ...

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Many traditionalists find the principle of the tour pro-turned-designer ‘bad form.’ In their eyes, it is just pure commercialism. The player gives his name to the project; a golf architect does all the work, the tour pro tweaks the design when he sees the project, often with the media in tow, only a couple of occasions before opening. Then when the course opens for the public the pro gets an Oscar for the best impression of a golf architect and receives a big cheque in the process.

It's worse when the actual designer cuts corners on construction, and the course becomes a maintenance nightmare a few years after the grand opening.

 

 

 

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On 1/16/2017 at 2:20 PM, David in FL said:

I doubt that he'll actually design any.  I suspect that his name will be on a bunch.

Oh, David… typical.

By the accounts I've heard he has been more involved in his first several courses than Jack was. Including designing several short courses already because he first learned on a short course.

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8 minutes ago, iacas said:

Oh, David… typical.

By the accounts I've heard he has been more involved in his first several courses than Jack was. Including designing several short courses already because he first learned on a short course.

Typical how?  @WUTiger's post indicates that it's an industry wide concern/issue.  Had the OP asked about Jordon Speith, my response would've been the same.

 

 

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Clarification: I did not mean to imply that Tiger was guilty of name-only activity.

I don't monitor his course designing that closely, but I have seen several stories and video clips showing his hands-on role.

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38 minutes ago, David in FL said:

Typical how?  @WUTiger's post indicates that it's an industry wide concern/issue.  Had the OP asked about Jordon Speith, my response would've been the same.

Typical of how you'd be expected to respond to a Tiger thread. And your response was posted before John's.

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If Tiger provides the vision behind a project, and other architects implement it, I'd still consider him the designer/course architect.

That said, I think he will probably design a good number of courses...he seems to really enjoy it and have an affinity for it (based on reviews of his work). I'm not sure what a "normal" number of courses is, so I won't give a fixed number.

I wonder if he'd ever do a "redesign" like other architects do, or if his ego (not in a bad way, it's deserved!) would make it not something he'd have the desire to do.

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