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Arccos 360 vs GameGolf Live

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My son has the first gen Arccos system which he likes. I am leaning towards Game Golf with the reasons being the tag size (even compared to 2nd Gen Arccos) and no batteries in the Game Golf tags. Also the GG Live price is very good, even though I missed the Amazon Prime sale. 

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Picked up the GG Live this week. Played 9 with it last night and was very happy with it. For me, it was about getting fairly accurate distances and shot direction. I am a high HC so I feel like getting this feedback could help me improve overall. The tapping wasn't a big deal, just have to be mindful if you are rushing around. I did run back to where i hit a few times after forgetting to tag a shot. @ssbn611 I didn't even notice the tags or the belt clip, everything is very lightweight.

One question i did have for the more seasoned users was how are punch shots and greenside bump and runs figured in? If i use a 6-7 iron around the green, does this skew overall stats? I am not worried about it, but just curious.

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21 minutes ago, byrne092 said:

One question i did have for the more seasoned users was how are punch shots and greenside bump and runs figured in? If i use a 6-7 iron around the green, does this skew overall stats? I am not worried about it, but just curious.

I currently just use the phone app to tag my shots, but I do plan on getting the belt clip soon. 

With regards to the greenside and punch shots, from game golf directly, "Game Golf automatically filters out punch shots and poorly hit shots to calculate the typical distance for each club, provided that you have recorded multiple shots with that particular club."

Looking at your GG profile, it looks like you hit a 7 iron 161 yds, and a 7 iron 32 yds, but it still says your "typical" 7 iron is 161, since it filtered out that 32 yard shot. It does not do an average, because obviously if it did an average, that 7 iron distance would be closer to like 95 yards which clearly isnt an accurate reflection of your 7 iron distance.

I hit my lob wedge 80% of the time I am inside 100 yards, so I have plenty of < 50 yard chips and pitches with it, yet it still says my expected distance with a full swing is 88 yds.

Also, looks like you can generate plenty of distance, nice job! Keep working on those approach shots and driving accuracy and I bet you'll see those scores drop lower.

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1 hour ago, byrne092 said:

 I did run back to where i hit a few times after forgetting to tag a shot.

When you forget to tag, the unit still knows you hit a shot (unless it’s a little chip or putt) and will record it as a stroke, so you don’t have to run back to the location and tag. Just try to remember what club you used and edit the shot later when you review the round. Or edit it on the phone app a few minutes later—between holes or something. 

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@klineka Thank for the info and words of confidence! I am definitely liking the belt clip, no issues with tagging and accuracy so far (only 18 holes in). I will be interested to see the data once i get an inventory of rounds under my belt.

@missouri swede I actually experienced this yesterday. I was playing a couple balls on a hole and it accounted for the extra shots. Easy enough to go back and edit out and make sure the hole is correct, which is nice.

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I've used my GG Live for over 150 rounds of golf. I have some minor issues with it (multiple sets of clubs, putting location, broken tags) but, overall, it is fantastic.  I carried it with my phone for the first year but then realized I just need the device on my belt and remember to tag.  I don't need my phone at all.  I edit my round when I get home.  The best part of GameGolf is their customer support.  They stand behind their product.  Highly recommended.

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12 hours ago, skywaterbanjo said:

I've used my GG Live for over 150 rounds of golf. I have some minor issues with it (multiple sets of clubs, putting location, broken tags) but, overall, it is fantastic.  I carried it with my phone for the first year but then realized I just need the device on my belt and remember to tag.  I don't need my phone at all.  I edit my round when I get home.  The best part of GameGolf is their customer support.  They stand behind their product.  Highly recommended.

The device and the tags should be getting delivered to my house tonight!

I had an issue with the original device I bought from ebay, it would only show a red light whenever it was turned on. Tried a ton of troubleshooting steps and couldnt get it to work. Returned it via ebay and found a brand new unit for cheaper than I originally paid for the used unit.

Looking forward to using the belt clip unit on Saturday since it will be cold. I can tell from firsthand experience its not fun to have to manually tag each shot on your phone when its upper 30s/low 40s outside. Should be much easier just to tap my belt and keep my gloves on.

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1 hour ago, klineka said:

The device and the tags should be getting delivered to my house tonight!

I had an issue with the original device I bought from ebay, it would only show a red light whenever it was turned on. Tried a ton of troubleshooting steps and couldnt get it to work. Returned it via ebay and found a brand new unit for cheaper than I originally paid for the used unit.

Looking forward to using the belt clip unit on Saturday since it will be cold. I can tell from firsthand experience its not fun to have to manually tag each shot on your phone when its upper 30s/low 40s outside. Should be much easier just to tap my belt and keep my gloves on.

I played a round recently without the belt clip...never again! It wasn't bad, but much more cumbersome using the app to add shots. Quick tip, dont wait until you are on the tee box to try and pair your device to your phone (if you plan on using your phone; I use it as a rangefinder now in place of my garmin watch.) sometimes it can take a minute or so to get it synced up.

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3 minutes ago, byrne092 said:

I played a round recently without the belt clip...never again! It wasn't bad, but much more cumbersome using the app to add shots. Quick tip, dont wait until you are on the tee box to try and pair your device to your phone (if you plan on using your phone; I use it as a rangefinder now in place of my garmin watch.) sometimes it can take a minute or so to get it synced up.

Yes, takes a long time. The app is quicker and you can add a tee shot while waiting for your second shot anyway.

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I have a question about these 2 products. From what I have seen, you do not need your phone for Game Golf Live, and will therefore not use your phone's GPS (data) or battery life. I read that Arccos uses your phone's GPS, but then also read that you can keep your phone in airplane mode while using. That is a conflict since the phone can't be in airplane mode if the GPS is needed.

Can someone please clarify? I was leaning towards Arccos but if it will use my GPS location/data the whole round, then that is a complete no-go for me. 

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11 minutes ago, gray said:

I have a question about these 2 products. From what I have seen, you do not need your phone for Game Golf Live, and will therefore not use your phone's GPS (data) or battery life. I read that Arccos uses your phone's GPS, but then also read that you can keep your phone in airplane mode while using. That is a conflict since the phone can't be in airplane mode if the GPS is needed.

GPS is active when in airplane mode. On iOS anyway.

The GG is independent of your phone if you want it to be. Even though I have GG Live, for example, I almost never connect it to my phone. I just use it and then edit later on my computer.

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3 minutes ago, iacas said:

GPS is active when in airplane mode. On iOS anyway.

The GG is independent of your phone if you want it to be. Even though I have GG Live, for example, I almost never connect it to my phone. I just use it and then edit later on my computer.

I assumed it was not. Googled and found out that ever since iOS 8.3 and later, GPS is not disabled while in airplane mode. Interesting. That would explain why it could still be used in airplane mode though. Thanks for the reply!

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