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8 hours ago, golfdu said:

They're Tour players guys, they've been doing that for far longer than any of us on this thread combined. Amateurs cannot consistently do that action without early extending or any other compensations, that's why the 5SK instructors recommend the back heel being down on the ground and rolled at impact with an iron.

I disagree with that.

The right heel doesn't have to be down. You can pull the heel off the ground and have the five keys. In fact…

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5 Keys pretty much all there on that swing…

… and her left heel is a little off the ground, too. :-)

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23 hours ago, saevel25 said:

Some PGA Tour players let their right heel come up. The right foot plays little to no part in the golf swing. 

I disagree.

Stand on one foot and rotate the torso.  Now use both feet.  Big difference.


14 minutes ago, Jack Watson said:

I disagree.

Stand on one foot and rotate the torso.  Now use both feet.  Big difference.

Do you need it for balance, yes. At impact the weight is 90%+ on the front foot. It doesn't matter if your trail foot comes up near impact. 

 

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24 minutes ago, Jack Watson said:

I disagree.

Stand on one foot and rotate the torso.  Now use both feet.  Big difference.

That's not what he's saying.

Your right foot is unweighted very early in the downswing. That's why when your right foot slips out behind you, you can often hit the ball solidly, still.

It doesn't contribute much to the downswing.

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@iacas

I just don't think I can go all in on the right leg doing nothing at all.  I have to believe it is making a contribution,  however small,  to the rotation.  Weight is left at impact.  Yes absolutely.  

I know if my right foot slips out behind me it was pushing,  at least some?  Otherwise why would it slip?

 


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3 minutes ago, Jack Watson said:

@iacas

I just don't think I can go all in on the right leg doing nothing at all.  I have to believe it is making a contribution,  however small,  to the rotation.  Weight is left at impact.  Yes absolutely.

Then keep reading. The right leg doesn't do much of anything. Your core muscles rotate your body and slide your hips forward. The right leg does almost nothing.

Think about it…

It's mostly extended. It regains flex - it's not pushing then - and about the time that happens to the max, the right hip begins elongating the right leg because your core has already moved your right hip forward enough.

The right leg contributes almost nothing.

3 minutes ago, Jack Watson said:

I know if my right foot slips out behind me it was pushing,  at least some?  Otherwise why would it slip?

Because it's unweighted, and it slips backward because the right hip is rotating forward.

This isn't the topic for this conversation, but they've done studies and measured the muscle activity, and pressure information would tell you a lot, too. The right leg doesn't contribute much. It certainly isn't "pushing" much because there's almost no pressure under the foot.

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