Hosting a Friends tournament

[Chriasp]

Hey guys,

I have decided to host a Friends open as a last official end to the season. We will be around 7-9 players participating in the range from 15-36 in HCP. 

We are all playing at our home course and I am in need of some help. I am trying to figure out the most fair formats to play for everyone. I want the one that plays the best to be the winner.

So my suggestions were.

Day 1: Playing the 18 hole as 5600 meters and a Stableford format with a 75% HCP. Players will score points by the placements they get.

 

Day 2: Playing the 18 holes as 6200 meters as stroke play with 50% HCP. Players will get points by the placement. 

 

If there is a tie there will be a playoff hole(s) with 50% HCP. 

 

Does this seem like a fair setup or will this favor a higher handicap and vice versa?

Thanks in advance.

[Chriasp]

I know you got alot of wisdom on everything golf @iacas. And I really wanna make this as fair as possible for everyone.

You got any advice for me?

[Club Rat]

Do not reduce the handicaps, they are usually only reduced in partner events.

Stay with the shorter course both days, a longer course will drive up time of play and scores.

High handicap players would enjoy your format.

[David in FL]

Stableford with full handicaps should work fine, but 6200 meters is way too long for that group.  Stick with 5600 and you should be fine.

You might also add in a closest to the pin comp each day, just to keep interest in those that might otherwise be out of contention early.

[iacas]

3 hours ago, Chriasp said:

I know you got alot of wisdom on everything golf @iacas. And I really wanna make this as fair as possible for everyone.

You got any advice for me?

I don't really run very many tournaments.

Sorry.

Good luck!

[WUTiger]

On 10/3/2017 at 4:14 PM, Chriasp said:

I have decided to host a Friends open as a last official end to the season. We will be around 7-9 players participating in the range from 15-36 in HCP.

What you could do is have a pairs tournament. Select pairs to balance the HDCP total as much as possible.

Play at 5,600 yards...

• Day 1: Play best ball (with HDCP) for each twosome. Each person gets his own HDCP.
• Day 2: Play a four-ball event: basically, it's a two-person scramble. and the strokes are the average of the team member's HDCPs.

Each day: a closest to pin on par 3, and a longest tee shot.

This would require some upfront work by you, but it would eliminate an accounting nightmare at the end of each round. (You will need an extra player on standby in case just seven or nine people show up.)

[Chriasp]

Thanks for all the feedback and advice guys. 

 

Only reason I am considering 75% handicap is because a 36 handicapper is getting 44 strokes from 5600. And the mens league on this course is 75% handicap stableford and have proven to be pretty fair for everyone.

I think i will up the handicap to 100% on the Stroke play but keep the 6200 tee. It's really only longer on 3 holes (it's a 9hole course). And everyone that is participating are long strikers except me. 

 

The slope rating for 5600 is 72/128 and for 6200 its 74,9/144. But atleast 4 of the 62 tees is played as 5600 tee. We do all want to play the hardest hole from 6200. It's 580m from 6200 and 477 from 5600. 

Edited October 5, 2017 by Chriasp

[DannyMac]

8 hours ago, Chriasp said:

Only reason I am considering 75% handicap is because a 36 handicapper is getting 44 strokes from 5600.

You could play off of the lowest handicap in the tournament, ie. The 15 handicap is now a zero and subtract 15 from everyone's cap so the 36 capper becomes a 21.  My 2 cents

[David in FL]

8 hours ago, Chriasp said:

Thanks for all the feedback and advice guys. 

 

Only reason I am considering 75% handicap is because a 36 handicapper is getting 44 strokes from 5600. And the mens league on this course is 75% handicap stableford and have proven to be pretty fair for everyone.

I think i will up the handicap to 100% on the Stroke play but keep the 6200 tee. It's really only longer on 3 holes (it's a 9hole course). And everyone that is participating are long strikers except me. 

 

The slope rating for 5600 is 72/128 and for 6200 its 74,9/144. But atleast 4 of the 62 tees is played as 5600 tee. We do all want to play the hardest hole from 6200. It's 580m from 6200 and 477 from 5600. 

There's a reason the high handicappers get so many strokes...  

Playing a much longer course puts them at a disadvantage as well.

[Chriasp]

Thanks for the feedbak.

Looks like we are going for this setup:

Day 1: 75% HCP from 56 tees: Stableford with Closest to pin and Longest Drive

Day 2: 100% HCP from 62 tees (only 6 holes): Strokeplay

Think this might be fair and fun for everyone. And I have said that if people don't want to play from 62 tees that is fair :)

Trophies are ordered and I am getting pretty excited 

[carri10]

This won't help your weekend, but maybe might be of interest to others on the thread.  Every year 7 friends and myself used to play a cut down Ryder Cup.

Given we were all in the UK, it was split between English players and Celtic players (Scotland, Welsh and Ireland).  Anyone from the UK would now that this is plenty to get the competitive juices flowing.  Most countries have enough local rivalry to get something like this dynamic going - in the states, you could play "yankees vs west coasters" or something.

Anyway, we'd play Saturday morning foreballs, Saturday afternoon foresomes and then singles on Sunday.

Then a big lunch and a pint and off back home.  Always a highlight of peoples golfing calendar.

Just throwing it out there..

Edited October 6, 2017 by carri10
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[iacas]

4 hours ago, carri10 said:

This won't help your weekend, but maybe might be of interest to others on the thread.  Every year 7 friends and myself used to play a cut down Ryder Cup.

Given we were all in the UK, it was split between English players and Celtic players (Scotland, Welsh and Ireland).  Anyone from the UK would now that this is plenty to get the competitive juices flowing.  Most countries have enough local rivalry to get something like this dynamic going - in the states, you could play "yankees vs west coasters" or something.

Anyway, we'd play Saturday morning foreballs, Saturday afternoon foresomes and then singles on Sunday.

Then a big lunch and a pint and off back home.  Always a highlight of peoples golfing calendar.

Just throwing it out there..

http://thesandtrap.com/newport-cup/