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I've been playing for a year and a few months.  My iron swing has gotten fairly reliable.  I am (was) a used club ho.  Recently I started hitting some Speedblades and Adams A3 irons.  I love them when I hit them well, but I started topping them like mad even when moving the ball back.  I've concluded that the highly cambered soles and the short southern grass don't mix well.  Would it be wise to have them bent strong to bring the leading edge down?

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That's not what's causing the problem.

Not even a little bit. You aren't topping the ball because of the camber or bounce on your clubs.

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7 hours ago, TallSouthern said:

I've been playing for a year and a few months.  My iron swing has gotten fairly reliable.  I am (was) a used club ho.  Recently I started hitting some Speedblades and Adams A3 irons.  I love them when I hit them well, but I started topping them like mad even when moving the ball back.  I've concluded that the highly cambered soles and the short southern grass don't mix well.  Would it be wise to have them bent strong to bring the leading edge down?

 

No, no. Please listen to @iacas. I'm not sophisticated enough to tell you the various causes of topping (I'll bet a search in Instruction on TST will give you some ideas; or a quick look by your pro.) I do know that the irons and wedges I play are beveled and cambered. I play most shots a bit more forward than most. I don't top when I keep my head relatively steady and my weight a bit forward and stay in posture (no standing up), thanks to my instructor, leading to an ascending strike. Anyway, please don't hurt your clubs before you explore further. Best of luck, -Marv

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7 minutes ago, TallSouthern said:

Well, if that's the case then I suppose I'm holding my wrist hinge and lag too long...seems to get worse when I'm tired....I'll work on it. Thanks.

I doubt it.

Very, very, very few people regularly "hold their wrist hinge and lag too long." Particularly higher handicappers who top the ball.

Film your swing.

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Ok, but fair warning it's very upright...That's probably part of it, but being tall it's either bend clubs up or extend them...The curious thing is the Speedblades are identically soled but bent up 2 degrees....and I rarely top or blade them....

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One last thing.... I had some worn MP 37's I loved and rarely bladed or topped.  They barely have any bounce and are thin soled...The shafts were as stiff as the Adams irons.. This us what made me think it's the soles/grass. They were not bent upright.

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Just now, TallSouthern said:

One last thing.... I had some worn MP 37's I loved and rarely bladed or topped.  They barely have any bounce and are thin soled...The shafts were as stiff as the Adams irons.. This us what made me think it's the soles/grass. They were not bent upright.

It's not.

I can hit this club well, and in the air, without topping the ball, and it has a lot of bounce:

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Basically.

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This was a dead straight 170 yahhhd 4 iron uphill.  Landed right on the crest of the hill....not sure how much rollout it woulda had.  You can see how narrow my stance is and how much lean I use to play it closer to me and not toe it even on a tee.

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What am I supposed to see there?

High bounce isn’t making you hit tops.

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Tops come from bad technique. Though poor equipment can cause a person to develop bad technique, depending. 

Here is a good video showing you an pitch on hardpan. 

 

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I was hitting poorly, then I realized I was keeping my weight forward...to the point I was having spasms in my left leg. Do you think I'm using too much lean or playing it back too much?  

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51 minutes ago, TallSouthern said:

I was hitting poorly, then I realized I was keeping my weight forward...to the point I was having spasms in my left leg. Do you think I'm using too much lean or playing it back too much?  

I'm not even really sure what this is about. The topic is about one thing, and it feels like now we're on to our third or fourth thing.

My recommendation:

  • Create a Member Swing topic.
  • Find your priority piece, focus on that, and work on that alone.
  • Don't be distracted by one range session here or there, or something you read, or whatever.

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golf-info-guide.com/golf-tips/playing-conditions/top-3-ways-to-stop-topping-the-ball/

Perhaps this can shed some light on the topping problem. 

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