Swinging from inside to outside with my wedge?

[Timo GD]

Hey guys,

I started playing a few months ago and spend the last weeks practicing my in to out swing which made my ball flight have a nice little draw that feels very good for me.

But now I face the problem that shorter irons and wedges feel inconsistent since I'm swinging them also from in to out.

My question:

Do I need to have 2 "swing styles" for longer and shorter irons or is my concept wrong here?

As I said I'm new to that sport, please do not stone me for my not available knowledge 😛

Thanks!

[criley4way]

The standard "goal" is to have a repeatable swing that you can trust, End of story.

Usually that is a single swing.

You say it FEELS inconsistent? What is the result? Feel is not always (or usually) reality. 

If you are hitting a nice predictable draw be happy.

[DaveP043]

1 hour ago, Timo GD said:

Hey guys,

I started playing a few months ago and spend the last weeks practicing my in to out swing which made my ball flight have a nice little draw that feels very good for me.

But now I face the problem that shorter irons and wedges feel inconsistent since I'm swinging them also from in to out.

My question:

Do I need to have 2 "swing styles" for longer and shorter irons or is my concept wrong here?

As I said I'm new to that sport, please do not stone me for my not available knowledge 😛

Thanks!

First of all, welcome to GOLF, and welcome to our little corner of it here at TST!

There's no reason to change your swing significantly for the shorter clubs, an in-to-out swing should work just fine.  What's very common is that a change like you've made, it may take a while to fully incorporate the change in all of your shots.  Make sure you practice with your short irons, they should begin to feel more natural quickly.

You don't say whether you're getting some instruction, or figuring things out on your own.  I suggest that you set up a Member Swing thread here:

https://thesandtrap.com/forums/forum/13-member-swings/

Make sure to click on Reveal Hidden Contents to learn how to use that area, including how best to video your swing.

[Buckeyebowman]

The thing about an "in to out" swing on short pitches and chips is that you can do it "too much"! I got into a funk where I was shanking a lot of short pitches and chips. My buddy finally clued me in that I was sort of "flipping" the clubhead behind me, as though I was getting tired or something. This would result in my throwing the hosel at the ball! Thus, the shank.

I worked at starting the clubhead back more along the target line, and it has helped a lot.

I'll remind you that this was unintentional, and did not model my full swing shot at all. It was just a bad habit I had gotten into. Nothing wrong w/in to out on short shots as long as you don't overdo it!

Plus, the shorter clubs are more "feel" clubs. It might take longer to bring them in line.

[Timo GD]

On 8/10/2018 at 2:58 PM, criley4way said:

The standard "goal" is to have a repeatable swing that you can trust, End of story.

Usually that is a single swing.

You say it FEELS inconsistent? What is the result? Feel is not always (or usually) reality. 

If you are hitting a nice predictable draw be happy.

Thanks for the insight! 

I noticed that my wedges have become alot more consistent in the last days. they don't curve as much as my long irons do eventhough I'm swinging them identically in terms of swing path

[Timo GD]

7 hours ago, Buckeyebowman said:

The thing about an "in to out" swing on short pitches and chips is that you can do it "too much"! I got into a funk where I was shanking a lot of short pitches and chips. My buddy finally clued me in that I was sort of "flipping" the clubhead behind me, as though I was getting tired or something. This would result in my throwing the hosel at the ball! Thus, the shank.

I worked at starting the clubhead back more along the target line, and it has helped a lot.

I'll remind you that this was unintentional, and did not model my full swing shot at all. It was just a bad habit I had gotten into. Nothing wrong w/in to out on short shots as long as you don't overdo it!

Plus, the shorter clubs are more "feel" clubs. It might take longer to bring them in line.

I learned the correct chipping technique through a Phil Mickelson Video I found on YouTube a week ago and I was shanking about 20% to the right. I think it is exactly what you are describing, I was coming too much from in to out completely off the "target line" you mentioned. It got much better since I am not flipping the club face behind me anymore.

Feels good to know that there are players struggling with similar things! 🙂

[Timo GD]

On 8/10/2018 at 3:50 PM, DaveP043 said:

First of all, welcome to GOLF, and welcome to our little corner of it here at TST!

I'm happy to be here and I'm sure that I'm already addicted to Golf.
Constantly thinking about it, not sleeping well when I don't understand concepts or can't hit straight shots 😜 
 

 

On 8/10/2018 at 3:50 PM, DaveP043 said:

There's no reason to change your swing significantly for the shorter clubs, an in-to-out swing should work just fine.  What's very common is that a change like you've made, it may take a while to fully incorporate the change in all of your shots.  Make sure you practice with your short irons, they should begin to feel more natural quickly.

I thought so, that's why I'll now go out on the course without thinking about it too much. I'm sure I will figure it out by playing enough, thanks a lot!

On 8/10/2018 at 3:50 PM, DaveP043 said:

You don't say whether you're getting some instruction, or figuring things out on your own.  I suggest that you set up a Member Swing thread here:

I had a total of 6 lessons so far. In 5 of those I was taught the basics and in 1 I asked for help with my driver slicing A LOT to the right.

I'd say that I've figured out about 80% by myself so far. I feels much more solid to me when I discover and understand something by myself out on the course or range compared to when someone is "pushing" me to do something because "that's what you have to do". I often work on specific things for a few days and only if I can't figure it out I'd ask the local pro for help. 

Not sure if this is a good or bad thing?

On 8/10/2018 at 3:50 PM, DaveP043 said:

I suggest that you set up a Member Swing thread here:

I will do that asap this week! Great idea, thanks so much!

[MarvChamp]

3 hours ago, Timo GD said:

I'm happy to be here and I'm sure that I'm already addicted to Golf.
Constantly thinking about it, not sleeping well when I don't understand concepts or can't hit straight shots 😜 

I'm an old guy with too many physical limitations to list. I played golf a long time, fell away for a time and then picked it up again. Yet, I easily understand what you say. Very uplifting! Golf is hard, frustrating, lovely and spiritual, all at the same time. Stay excited! Best, -Marv