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I carry 14 clubs in my bag, and an old Callaway driver shaft which I use as an alignment stick on the range.  It is only the shaft, no club head.  I know this may seem like an odd (and possibly very stupid) question seeing that it is clearly not a club, but since it is a golf club shaft does this count as a 15th club in my bag?


No.

Since it's no club, it doesn't count as one...

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Originally Posted by Motown88

I carry 14 clubs in my bag, and an old Callaway driver shaft which I use as an alignment stick on the range.  It is only the shaft, no club head.  I know this may seem like an odd (and possibly very stupid) question seeing that it is clearly not a club, but since it is a golf club shaft does this count as a 15th club in my bag?

Just take care that you don't use it on the course or you would be in breach of Rule 14-3.

Rick

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Originally Posted by Fourputt

Just take care that you don't use it on the course or you would be in breach of Rule 14-3.

I don't see there being a time I would use it on a course...It's pretty hard to hit a ball without the club head :)

Joking aside, I would never use a training aid of any sort on the golf course.  Trying something new, or for training/learning purposes is something meant for the range in my opinion.


Originally Posted by Motown88

I don't see there being a time I would use it on a course...It's pretty hard to hit a ball without the club head :)

Joking aside, I would never use a training aid of any sort on the golf course.  Trying something new, or for training/learning purposes is something meant for the range in my opinion.

I have seen people use such things on the course, which is why I mentioned it.

Rick

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14-3/10.3

Use of Rod During Round for Alignment or as Swing Aid

Q. During a stipulated round, a player uses a rod to check his alignment or his swing plane. What is the ruling?

A. The player is disqualified under Rule 14-3 as the rod is unusual equipment and such use, during the stipulated round, is not permitted.

Carrying the rod is not, of itself, a breach of a Rule.

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Originally Posted by Motown88

I carry 14 clubs in my bag, and an old Callaway driver shaft which I use as an alignment stick on the range.  It is only the shaft, no club head.  I know this may seem like an odd (and possibly very stupid) question seeing that it is clearly not a club, but since it is a golf club shaft does this count as a 15th club in my bag?

I see pros with alignment sticks in their bags during tournament play all the time, so they obviously don't count as clubs. It may be a little fuzzy when it's a club shaft without a head, though it shouldn't. But you know how the rules can be.


Originally Posted by Rulesman

14-3/10.3

Use of Rod During Round for Alignment or as Swing Aid

Q.During a stipulated round, a player uses a rod to check his alignment or his swing plane. What is the ruling?

A.The player is disqualified under Rule 14-3 as the rod is unusual equipment and such use, during the stipulated round, is not permitted.

Carrying the rod is not, of itself, a breach of a Rule.

This rule seems silly - because you can use your club (shaft) to help with alignment - before the shot.  Not that I use an alignment stick during a round of golf... I just find it silly that you can't use it... Especially when you can lay the golf club on the ground - make sure your stance line is where you want it - then pick the club up and make the swing.... And not incur a penalty.

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Originally Posted by Rulesman

14-3/10.3

Use of Rod During Round for Alignment or as Swing Aid

Q.During a stipulated round, a player uses a rod to check his alignment or his swing plane. What is the ruling?

A.The player is disqualified under Rule 14-3 as the rod is unusual equipment and such use, during the stipulated round, is not permitted.

Carrying the rod is not, of itself, a breach of a Rule.

Damn...there is a rule for everything apparently!!! Thanks for looking it up!


Originally Posted by Fourputt

Just take care that you don't use it on the course or you would be in breach of Rule 14-3.


I have a related question.  I sometimes carry a "donut" in my bag that I can slip onto my driver and make it a weighted club.  Am I correct in thinking that I can use it on the first tee before I hit my tee shot (and hence before the stipulated round has begun) and then put it away in my bag so long as I never use it during the stipulated round?

Thanks,

But then again, what the hell do I know?

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I tend to just lay my club on the ground pointing towards my target, then position my feet before picking the club up. No unusual equipment with the same result.


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I have a related question.  I sometimes carry a "donut" in my bag that I can slip onto my driver and make it a weighted club.  Am I correct in thinking that I can use it on the first tee before I hit my tee shot (and hence before the stipulated round has begun) and then put it away in my bag so long as I never use it during the stipulated round?

Thanks,

Yes, your thinking is correct.  It would be considered a swing aid, and as such its use is not allowed during the stipulated round.  You can use a weighted training club as long as the design of the club is within the rules, and it counts as one of your 14 clubs selected for the round.

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14-3/10

Use of Training or Swing Aid During Round

Q. During a round, may a player make a stroke or a practice swing using a club with a weighted headcover or "doughnut" on it, or use any other device designed as a training or swing aid?

A. No. The player would be using an artificial device to assist him in his play in breach of Rule 14-3 , but see also Decision 4-4a/7 for use of a weighted training club.

Rick

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