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I have been hitting greens, but then my ball bounds through them so I have to chip back to the hole about 50% of the time. I would expect this with long irons and mid irons, but it occurs with my 9, PW, GW, and brand new CG14 56*! I know it is obviously my swing since I use a soft ball (Cally Hot Bite). My full sand wedge is 100-105 carry, but when I hit the green it just hits and takes off past it 10-15 yds past the pin and off the green. So I think my swing speed is high enough to generate a decent amount of spin, but it is just not happening! Any suggestions?

Driver: Cleveland Launcher, 9.5°
Hybrid: Pinemeadow Bloc 24°
Irons: Mizuno MX-200, 4-GW
SW: Cleveland CG14, 56°, 2 dot
LW: Pinemeadow Wedge, 60°Putter: Odyssey White Hot Sabertooth, 35"Ball: Callaway HX Hot Bite

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Stop hitting it thin. What does your ball flight look like? A SW should really be taking off into the air, not forward. If you're hitting it 105 with the SW then you're probably a little thin.

Check your club. How are the grooves? Is the face clean? This is important.
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You could be scooping the ball a bit – to get the ball to bite and back up you really have to strike the ball with a crisp descending blow. That is, you must have a flat left wrist with the shaft leaning forward at impact.

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]Stop hitting it thin. What does your ball flight look like? A SW should really be taking off into the air, not forward. If you're hitting it 105 with the SW then you're probably a little thin. The reason it is rolling forward is because by the time it lands it still also has force in the forward direction. When you sky it by the time it hits the ground it has used all of its energy to go forward and is left with only backspin so when it hits it rolls backwards or stops.

Check your club. How are the grooves? Is the face clean? This is important.
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You need to hit down on the ball to compress it, thus generating spin. Try placing it back in your stance a bit and putting more weight on your front foot.
Driver: ZL 10.5⁰
Fairway: Burner 15⁰/19⁰
Irons: MP-67
Wedges: 1018 52⁰/56⁰/60⁰
Putter: Byron Morgan 007xBall: Pro V1x
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If you're scooping it, I'd assume that you'd get less spin. Like someone said before me, try placing the ball a little farther back in your stance. Really concentrate on hitting down through the ball. Basically, take a divot with some of your shorter irons. If this doesn't work and it's available, try a ball fitting session. Maybe your ball isn't generating enough spin for your liking.

In my Ogio Ozone Bag:
TM Superquad 9.5* UST Proforce 77g Stiff
15* Sonartec SS-2.5 (Pershing stiff)
19* TM Burner (stock stiff)
4-U - PING i10 White dot, +1.25 inches, ZZ65 stiff shafts55*/11* Snake Eyes Form Forged (DGS300)60*/12* Snake Eyes Form Forged (DGS300)Ping i10 1/2 MoonTitleist ProV1

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While working on your trajectory and creating additional spin, start playing to the front of the green distance instead of middle (usually take about 10+ yards off middle distance for front) or work on controlling the bump-n-run shots to let it hit short of green (when carry is not forced). I play with a guy who hits it very low but he simply plays to front or even 10+ yards short of green for his shots and has some success.
Driver: SQ DYMO STR8-Fit
4 Wood: SQ DYMO
2H (17*), 4H (23*) & 5H (26*): Fli-Hi CLK
Irons (5-6): MX-900; (7-PW): MP-60
Wedges (51/6*): MP-T Chrome; (56/13): MP-R ChromePutter: White Hot XG 2-Ball CSPreferred Ball: e5+/e7+/B330-RXGPS Unit: NEOPush Cart: 2.0
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WHat does your divot look like?

When I go to the range, I will put a tee in the grass and make sure with my irons 8 or 9 and down that I line up the ball with that tee. THe divot should start forward of the tee just a bit. This will indicate that you are making contact with the ball on a downward path that caused you to take some earth with the ball.

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some golf clubs

a few golf balls

a bag of tee's some already broken the rest soon to be

a snickers wrapper (if you have seen me play, you would know you are not going anywhere for a while)

and an empty bottle of water

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If your 56º doesn't stop at the green, there is something wrong with the swing, or you are playing on concrete greens. You can deloft, but so much as to not make a 56º stop? Sounds like you're hitting everything thin.
You don't need spin, you need higher trajectory. Have you compared your ball flight with others using the same club?

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

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You need to hit down on the ball to compress it, thus generating spin. Try placing it back in your stance a bit and putting more weight on your front foot.

Good advice for the OP.

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:tmade: Burner 3W 15*(R)
:tmade: Burner 2.0 Rescue 3-4
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Thanks to ALL! I will go work on this. Concentrating more on hitting down on the ball. Am I wrong or should this also increase the trajectory at the same time, which would further help my cause of holding greens as stated above?

Driver: Cleveland Launcher, 9.5°
Hybrid: Pinemeadow Bloc 24°
Irons: Mizuno MX-200, 4-GW
SW: Cleveland CG14, 56°, 2 dot
LW: Pinemeadow Wedge, 60°Putter: Odyssey White Hot Sabertooth, 35"Ball: Callaway HX Hot Bite

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Thanks to ALL! I will go work on this. Concentrating more on hitting down on the ball. Am I wrong or should this also increase the trajectory at the same time, which would further help my cause of holding greens as stated above?

Ignore the posts about trajectory. If you want the ball to stop on the green, you need to increase spin. How do you increase spin? Hit down on the ball

Trust me, regardless of the trajectory, if the ball has enough spin then it'll stop. I think the trajectory will be more closely related to the loft of your club and how hard you swing, but as long as you can compress the ball, you'll get your desired results.
Driver: ZL 10.5⁰
Fairway: Burner 15⁰/19⁰
Irons: MP-67
Wedges: 1018 52⁰/56⁰/60⁰
Putter: Byron Morgan 007xBall: Pro V1x
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Ignore the posts about trajectory. If you want the ball to stop on the green, you need to increase spin. How do you increase spin? Hit down on the ball

Trajectory and spin are usually related, both will behave according to how the ball is struck. With a good downward strike, you'll get both trajectory and spin. The difference is that you can't really see the spin, while trajectory is much easier to see. You will of course see the ball stop on the green, but I would not rely on spin for the ball to stop all the time. The pros may be able to punch a chip and get the ball to check and stop, or spin it back with a 6i, but that's not something you want to aim at if your ball is going through the green.

Ogio Grom | Callaway X Hot Pro | Callaway X-Utility 3i | Mizuno MX-700 23º | Titleist Vokey SM 52.08, 58.12 | Mizuno MX-700 15º | Titleist 910 D2 9,5º | Scotty Cameron Newport 2 | Titleist Pro V1x and Taylormade Penta | Leupold GX-1

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Ignore the posts about trajectory. If you want the ball to stop on the green, you need to increase spin. How do you increase spin? Hit down on the ball

Really? Even without spin a wedge shot should not be rolling very far. The reason a wedge rolls out less than a 3I has little to do with spin and everything to do with trajectory.

In the bag:
FT-iQ 10° driver, FT 21° neutral 3H
T-Zoid Forged 15° 3W, MX-23 4-PW
Harmonized 52° GW, Tom Watson 56° SW, X-Forged Vintage 60° LW
White Hot XG #1 Putter, 33"

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Its a combination of many things but I think everyone agrees you shouldnt get roll with a sandwedge or even hit one 105 yards. So hit down on the ball more. The drill that someone mentioned with the tee(or a towel) behind the ball should help.

In my Sun Mountain MPB bag:
Burner 07 9.5w/ Prolaunch Red
SZ Fairway Woods 4+ and 7
Rescue TP 3 hybrid
200 series irons 4-pwcg11 wedges 52*,56*,60*White Hot 2-BallDT RollHome Course: www.bodegaharbourgolf.com/

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