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Shaft PUREing, Puring, or Spining

post #1 of 44
Thread Starter 
Hey guys. What is shaft PUREing? Is it something you should do (or have done) whenever you are buying or building a club or is it a waste of time and money?

Many thanks.
post #2 of 44

Re: Shaft PUREing, Puring, or Spining

Conterversial topic, it's tough to say.

There's definately something to it that's physically demonstrable. In my experience, certain shaft companies tend to have "less" of a spine than others.

However, the only place you're going to be able to truly visualize puring benefits is on a frequency meter, and you don't play golf on a frequency meter.

In the end, a good swing with an unpured shaft and a good swing with a pured shaft yield the same results for me. I wouldn't pay more than $10 to have a shaft pured, personally. But the most important piece of equipment is between your ears, so if puring gives you piece of mind, by all means do it.
post #3 of 44

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Greens, etc.... here's an article we had on the subject that, hopefully, may help. Believe me, it makes a difference...

http://thesandtrap.com/archives/bag_...mate_tweak.php
post #4 of 44

Re: Shaft PUREing, Puring, or Spining

No question, I have my woods SST PURED. Have not done my steel irons though.

Very valuable to me and my head when on a tight driving hole to be confident in the consistency of my 3 wood to go right where I am aiming. Now if I could just get my putter PURED . . .
post #5 of 44
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Re: Shaft PUREing, Puring, or Spining

Thanks to all. This is helpful.
post #6 of 44

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I think its a good idea for a driver, since that club loads and unloads in the air with no ground to stablilze it at impact. Anything to ensure uniform shaft reactions is a plus for the driver with its low loft. For the rest of the clubs, it may not be a big deal. Have it done at purchase, its hard to get it done afterwards at $50 plus a club.
post #7 of 44

Re: Shaft PUREing, Puring, or Spining

Originally Posted by GreensDruid View Post
Hey guys. What is shaft PUREing? Is it something you should do (or have done) whenever you are buying or building a club or is it a waste of time and money?

Many thanks.
According to Cleveland Golf (see http://www.clevelandgolf.com/faq_irons.html ) "there is no data that can prove spining (or puring) actually works."

Quote:
Q: What does it mean to pure a shaft? Is this the same as spine align or frequency?
A: Yes, they are the same thing. Some people believe that by orienting the spine of the shaft in a certain way they will improve the performance of the golf club. However, there is no data that can prove spining (or puring) actually works. Due to this lack of data, Cleveland Golf does not offer this service.
post #8 of 44

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There isn't much that's needed to be sorted out in my bag (probably change 3 wood shaft & replace a club with a gap wedge).

But since I had my driver shaft pured, i felt a difference that's incredible.

I was wondering if anyone had their iron shafts pured. Since I have PX's I was wondering if it's even worth doing. The px's are frequency matched which is supposed to provide a consistent stiffness if you will. so would i notice a huge gain in spending that $25 a club to do it? or is it a waste?
post #9 of 44

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I have seen impact labels from an iron byron. The imapct marks from the pured shaft were almost dead on center. The unpured shafts showed some off center hits (but it wasn't that much off center.)

If you are putting a $100 shaft in a club, the extra $10 is probably money well spent to get as much as you can out of your shaft.

If you are putting a $20 shaft in a club, you are probably better off spending the extra $10 on getting a better shaft.

I view puring as an icing on the cake type of thing.
post #10 of 44

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I thought it was BS as well UNTIL I bought a spine finder. I took my irons apart and spined the shafts. Once you see the shafts SNAP into position you get it.

Picture your shaft as a 2 x 4. Which way does it flex the easiest? Which is the most difficult?

look at it like a clock

If all of your shafts are oriented at 12 and 6 (easiest) they flex natural. remember the 2 x 4
If at 3 and 9 it's against the the "grain" and difficult to flex

those are the 2 extremes. When shafts are inserted randomly you get all of the variations and luck of the draw.

I have done my irons but not woods as removing and reinstalling graphite shafts is risky and I hit my woods well. One thing to consider is that when you spine your shafts to neutral they may feel softer than they did while unspined.

if you spine your own you will be amazed how they snap into position
post #11 of 44

Anyone use SST Pured shafts?

I exactly is this? What does this do? Is there a major difference in results? Did you get the shaft the same day or did you have to wait to get it? I have a local Golfsmith that I shop at, do they give you the shaft the same day you order it? Any help would be great. Thanks
post #12 of 44

Re: Anyone use SST Pured shafts?

Originally Posted by clubmaker15 View Post
I exactly is this? What does this do? Is there a major difference in results? Did you get the shaft the same day or did you have to wait to get it? I have a local Golfsmith that I shop at, do they give you the shaft the same day you order it? Any help would be great. Thanks
It's a way to make your wallet lighter!
post #13 of 44

Re: Anyone use SST Pured shafts?

Originally Posted by clubmaker15 View Post
I exactly is this? What does this do? Is there a major difference in results? Did you get the shaft the same day or did you have to wait to get it? I have a local Golfsmith that I shop at, do they give you the shaft the same day you order it? Any help would be great. Thanks
Go to www.sstpure.com for more info. Basically, what puring does is provide a constant flex in the shaft as its set to a certain CPM. A proper fitting will dial the shaft to the exact flex and puring it will lock you into that number.

I can only speak for myself. I noticed a difference and it's not expensive: $60. I did not do this at Golfsmith, though. You should be able to get your driver back in the same day.
post #14 of 44

Re: Anyone use SST Pured shafts?

Puring or spining is simply aligning the "pure" flex of the shaft in some orientation with the club face. Here is the best simplification of the process. The shaft is held at the butt and the tip is flexed in one plane. When the shaft is released is oscillates in and elliptical or oblong circular pattern. Puring simply finds the plane at which a shaft oscillates in a straight line. In reality the best shaft "those used by Tiger" oscillate in a straight line. I have had two complete sets of irons, and drivers pured. My local shop has given me the charts from every shaft. About half of my shafts are very close to oscillating in a straight line. A few of my shafts are marginal. From what I understand the factories go through thousands of shafts and make sure the factory players get the best shafts.

In reality it is about consistency… If you want your shafts to flex the same each and every swing, among every club, get it done. If you think it doesn’t matter your wasting money.

Secondary thought. Obviously during the swing the shaft will flex in a couple of different planes. So there is another school that is questioning what orientation the spine is aligned.
post #15 of 44

Re: Shaft PUREing, Puring, or Spining

I'm trying to make my sinc most consistent possible, by all means...and thinking about puring my shafts. I use s300 now and tried out rifle6.0 and loved it.
do you guys think getting new rifle6.0 and puring them is worth?
post #16 of 44

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Getting fitted for the right shaft is worth it at any handicap, puring the shafts is probably not worth it at 17. There have been studies showing that there is really negligible difference.
post #17 of 44

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I'm playing professionally and I don't have my shafts "pured," and I'm doing just fine, lol. I think that shaft puring falls under the same category as matching swingweights for all your clubs (lol, which I do). It all comes down to personal preference, and opinion. Some say it works, some say it doesn't matter. Find two identical clubs, one with a pured shaft, and one without and see which you like better. My two cents.
post #18 of 44

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There is a reason it isn't offered as standard by the large majority of, if by any, manufacturers. There is no concrete proof it has any significant beneficial effect on club performance or consistency. I suppose there is the mental factor, in that knowing your clubs are pured could make you more consistent with them.
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