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The following is a brief rant by TXjammer.

Pros are not super-human. Amateurs are not failures. The golf clubs pros play with are NOT "special". Your golf clubs are NOT "sub-standard". Pros DO hit bad shots, have bad days/scores, and not EVERY one of their drives goes farther than 250yds. Amateurs CAN hit further than 300yds in the right conditions on a good day.

What is the REAL difference b/w an amateur and a pro? A real job. If you have a real job, you have to work at it. Therefore you can't play as much golf as someone who's real job is to play golf. Therefore you cannot develope your game playing once/twice a week as well as someone who hits 1,000 golf balls/day, and should not expect to. Realizing this will greatly decrease a lot of the stresses and dissappointments discussed by the amateur golf community, and hopefully break down the myths that have become a mystical cloud surrounding the professional golf community.

Am I a little envious of said pros? Yes.

Rant over.

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I love this , i have been beating myself up over my scores, i stopped playing golf to play competitive mens softball about 17yrs ago , those two swing do not work well with each other. I am now getting back into golf and i have rounds in the high 30 and highs in the 40 . I just have had no consistency yet.

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I thought the McNabb contract was the dumbest thing I'd see all day (or decade). I was wrong - This thread wins.

I once watched Clutch Mcgee, a tour pro.

The moment I heard him strike a golf ball I came in my pants. It sounded like Zeus throwing lightning spears.

I thought I knew how good pros were, but then I realized I grossly underestimated their otherworldy hand eye coordination.

He then proceeded to hit a 450 yard drive right down the middle while doing a backflip on his follow through. Then suddenly a rainbow appeared leading into heaven and he proceeded to follow it back to where he came from.

Since that day I built a shrine with his statue in my parents basement. I will never forget the day I met a real tour pro.

sincerely,

Airball7

Golf is a game in which the ball always lies poorly and the player always lies well.

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I thought the McNabb contract was the dumbest thing I'd see all day (or decade). I was wrong - This thread wins.

Damn can you get me some Acid?

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Damn can you get me some Acid?

Sorry, I don´t ship to Boston. It´s also illegal. You sir, should be ashamed of yourself.

Golf is a game in which the ball always lies poorly and the player always lies well.

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Pros are not super human but with a golf club they do some super human things. Who said amateurs are failures? The clubs that pros play with are special in that they are specially fitted for them. A job is not the only difference between an amateur and a pro. So you think amateurs are stressed and dissapointed because they can't play to the level of your so called mythical pros?

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A rant is what it is....random thoughts thrown out there to spark conversation and debate between people with common interests...in this case, golf. All thoughts expressed in my rant were derived mainly from the reading of posts in this forum.

So you think amateurs are stressed and dissapointed because they can't play to the level of your so called mythical pros?

NO. Read carefully and you will see I was saying we shouldn't be dissappointed when we don't play to the level of the pros when we can't apply the time to the game that they can.

There's no doubt that talent, physique, and opportunity come into play to make a great golfer, but I would love to see how many players on this forum, if given the opportunity to play everyday for a year could become scratch golfers.
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Pros DO hit bad shots, have bad days/scores, and not EVERY one of their drives goes farther than 250yds.

Shortest drive of the year on the 2010 PGA Tour: Aaron Baddeley hit a 24 yard drive. Now

there's a stat I can relate to!

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What is the REAL difference b/w an amateur and a pro? A real job.

I can't say I buy that argument. If that's all that stopped people we would see a lot more 9-5ers quitting their jobs. Tour pros don't have a job because when they were young someone realized that they had a talent for golf. Of course, you are going to have some exceptions, but they are just that; exceptions.

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A rant is what it is....random thoughts thrown out there to spark conversation and debate between people with common interests...in this case, golf. All thoughts expressed in my rant were derived mainly from the reading of posts in this forum. NO. Read carefully and you will see I was saying we shouldn't be dissappointed when we don't play to the level of the pros when we can't apply the time to the game that they can.

Sure, being a scratch player could happen to a percentage of people on this forum if they played everyday but also keep in mind, scratch is still VERY far from pro.

Also, you are largely underestimating the actual mechanical, athletic and hand eye ability of the individual. Not everyone on this earth or on this forum has the basic hand eye or basic athletic ability to become a scratch golfer. There a limitations that you forgetting and all of these factors play when looking at a pro. At their level, they truly are special - far more than you can probably fathom...

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There's that word - "fathom" I don't have to fathom or imagine. I've walked along-side pros at the tournaments, I've worked at a resort golf course where pros would come through and play from time to time and brought them buckets of balls on the range and stayed to watch them. I've stood 12' in front of Phil Mickelson while he ripped a ball out of the rough with a 5iron, and watched Bo Van Pelt, Jim Furyk, Steve Stricker, and many others hit a Par 3 green at 200yds using the same club I use to hit 160yds. I've watched John Daly tee off on hole #1 at the Colonial Country Club for the Plaza Invitational 2010. I'm not evaluating what I see or don't see in the pros from ignorance. Besides, it's just my opinion...ya know, they vary.
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Competitive mens softball? LOL!!!!

i take it you have never been to a large turny for softball? The Mens majors will make somewhere between 100k-350k a year ?

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I can't say I buy that argument. If that's all that stopped people we would see a lot more 9-5ers quitting their jobs. Tour pros don't have a job because when they were young someone realized that they had a talent for golf. Of course, you are going to have some exceptions, but they are just that; exceptions.

Yea...I didn't word that very well did I? I didn't literally mean "THE ONLY DIFFERENCE"...sorry.

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There's that word - "fathom" I don't have to fathom or imagine. I've walked along-side pros at the tournaments, I've worked at a resort golf course where pros would come through and play from time to time and brought them buckets of balls on the range and stayed to watch them. I've stood 12' in front of Phil Mickelson while he ripped a ball out of the rough with a 5iron, and watched Bo Van Pelt, Jim Furyk, Steve Stricker, and many others hit a Par 3 green at 200yds using the same club I use to hit 160yds. I've watched John Daly tee off on hole #1 at the Colonial Country Club for the Plaza Invitational 2010. I'm not evaluating what I see or don't see in the pros from ignorance. Besides, it's just my opinion...ya know, they vary.

At that's the beautiful thing with opinions. I respect yours and fathom wasn't meant to be used negatively. I played baseball for the Jr blue jays, NCAA DIV1 and Single A ball in the minors - baseball was my 9-5. I threw 90mph and came close but still, even still with all the athletic ability, talent, whatever that I had, just couldn't get there. That's what I mean by fathom. When you can taste it and still be so far away from the big show.

Further to that, and more importantnly, I feel that some people just don't have the mechanical or athletic ability. It is what it is I guess. You bring up interesting points and that is what makes this forum fun!

Deryck Griffith

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No doubt Deryck. And it's true I have aspirations that are out of my reach....maybe. BUT, I'm just one of those kind of people who has to have something to strive for or I get severely BORED with life. Like you, I have tasted closeness to the "big show", but in music. Being a prof. musician since I was 15, I have shared stage with some big acts and names and could never claim my own spot on the world stage.....there's just "that thing" I didn't have....whatever that is. Just being able to hit the notes and play the riffs wasn't enough. Likewise I know a few golfers and have read about tons more out on the mini tours that can actually outplay some of the tour pros...but opportunity hasn't presented itself. Anyway, we're way off subject now, but who cares.

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