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  1. 1. Assuming the same scoring average, would you rather be consistent or erratic?

    • I prefer consistency with most of my rounds close to my average.
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    • I'd rather have some really good and some really bad rounds.
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Assuming your scoring average does not change, would you rather see your scores all bunched around your average, or spread all over the place with more really good and more really bad rounds?  If you play a bunch of different courses, it assumes they are all around the same difficulty.

i.e.  78, 85 and 93 OR 83, 85 and 87?

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Er. Call me thick but why would someone want inconsistency? Inconsistency by it's very nature is unpredictable so there's no way to know when your 'great' rounds will be.

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I'd like to be a little more inconsistent, with the odd really good round. I've had, probably, my most consistent year in over 40 years of golf. Started the year off 5.2, and after a busy golfing summer, and finished the summer on 5.2. I play at a 6700 yd par 72, and have a scoring average of 77.8 gross. It really would have been nice to shoot a a shockingly good round of, say, 5 under gross.

To be honest, there's been times when its almost been boring.


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I've only broken 80 once this year, but my last 15 or so rounds range from 79 (once) to 84 (once) with most being between 80 and 82.

Last season there were a few rounds in the 70s (at other courses), most in the 80-84 range, a couple in the high 80s and even a round in the mid-90s (foggy about that one). I'm playing better golf this year. I'm never completely out of a match because the ball is in play and there's always a chance to sink a bomb or chip in. The pace of my course's greens is still a mystery to me, yet I'm grinding better thanks to league play.

I vote Yes on consistency, but I'd like to get consistently better.

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I voted for consistency. That means you at least have a little bit of a clue what your doing.....I think. I only shot in the 80s twice this year, the rest were from 75 to 79, with one 69. If I can consistently lower my median score next year by one or two strokes to 74 to 78s, I will be happy.

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This is a difficult question.  But I think it depends upon your handicap and if you play for $$ or not.  If you're a 20 and you play for $$ (or Euros or whatever) it is better to be inconsistent unless you like losing.  I am inconsistent and just this year I have scored 83 (best) and 105 (worst).  I admit this has been a bad year for the handicap as I have not been able to play or practice very much for various reasons (life happens I guess).  But in terms of winning, the rounds in the 80s were money makers.  Given the way the handicaps are calculated I suspect it is better for double digit handicaps to be a little inconsistent (most are whether they want to be or not).

But I seem to be well now and other distractions have been resolved so I'll rededicate myself to becoming more consistent again and with a lower handicap (creek don't rise and Lord willing).

Butch


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Nobody shoots consistently within a 5 shot margin.............lets all be honest here.  Anyone who claims to shoot within a tight range of scores doesn't count all the strokes.

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeNut

Nobody shoots consistently within a 5 shot margin.............lets all be honest here.  Anyone who claims to shoot within a tight range of scores doesn't count all the strokes.



You should post a swing thread. I don't believe you're a 1 capper.

It's fun being called a liar, isn't it?!?

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Originally Posted by BuckeyeNut

Nobody shoots consistently within a 5 shot margin.............lets all be honest here.  Anyone who claims to shoot within a tight range of scores doesn't count all the strokes.



Very true! My best is 70 gross, and my worst is 81. That puts me just outside 5 better than handicap and 4 worse. Good job someone else has been marking my cards or I might not be an honest person


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Well a guy I play with does,he plays crap and hes only about 4 or 5 over his handicap. His consistency is fantastic I wish I had that kind of consistency. I can have a 82 one week and a 92 the next.

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNut

Nobody shoots consistently within a 5 shot margin.............lets all be honest here.  Anyone who claims to shoot within a tight range of scores doesn't count all the strokes.




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My range of scores for 2011 is (-2) 70 and (+15) 87.  Everybody has bad days when our golf ball seeks out every bad spot on the course and scores will always spiral out of control pretty fast on those bad days.  Even the worlds best tour players do the same......even the best tour players toss in the occasional round in the 80's.

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Originally Posted by sean_miller

You should post a swing thread. I don't believe you're a 1 capper.

It's fun being called a liar, isn't it?!?


This is typical of what you should see as far as score ranges go for a 1HC..........

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HC's will vary as do the scores............I'm not always a 1.

My index was in the 1's for most of the year, it was also in the 2's some......... I also jumped to a 3.2 early in the year recovering from winter rust.   Right now my index is 1.7.  On my home course from the tees I play, that translates to a 2HC.  Technically speaking....I'm not even a 1HC right now on my home course.  LOL

If I go somewhere easier....I am It just depends where I play. You just have to keep in mind how handicaps are calculated because only the 10best scores out of 20 count.  My only point is that people who say for example..... "I always shoot between 95-100" are kidding themselves because there is no way in hell that is possible if they are being truly honest with themselves.  I'm not saying they can't shoot those scores.  What I am saying is those ranges are much larger.....

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- Big Bertha Alpha 815 3-wood
- Callaway Razr Fit 5-wood
- Callaway Big Bertha 4-5 Rescue Clubs
-- Mizuno Mx-25 six iron-gap wedge
- Mizuno Mp-T4 56degree SW
- Mizuno Mp-T11 60degree SW
- Putter- Ping Cadence Ketsch


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This is my golf swing on video.........LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnLLk-IV-98

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- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Driver
- Big Bertha Alpha 815 3-wood
- Callaway Razr Fit 5-wood
- Callaway Big Bertha 4-5 Rescue Clubs
-- Mizuno Mx-25 six iron-gap wedge
- Mizuno Mp-T4 56degree SW
- Mizuno Mp-T11 60degree SW
- Putter- Ping Cadence Ketsch


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Id rathar be consistent.  Its no fun to go from having good rounds one day to horrible rounds the next day with no idea why.  Thats the stuff that will drive you crazy.

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Last year I shot 8 rounds of 80 in a row and I was going crazy. So....less consistency for me from now on please


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If I could shoot 68-70 everytime I teed it up I would take consistency also.  I've been over hauling my swing for the last year so I've had scores as low as 67 and as high as 87.  Thats 20 shots difference.  Like the above said unless you play the same course everytime you tee it up I don't see how you can be within 5 shots everytime.  Even tour players have rounds in the 80s

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Originally Posted by poser

If I could shoot 68-70 everytime I teed it up I would take consistency also.  I've been over hauling my swing for the last year so I've had scores as low as 67 and as high as 87.  Thats 20 shots difference.  Like the above said unless you play the same course everytime you tee it up I don't see how you can be within 5 shots everytime.  Even tour players have rounds in the 80s



Yeah, no shit. And like I've said several times, I do play most of my rounds on the same course. That happens when you're on a tight schedule and on a fixed golf budget.

I also see a lot of fair to middling tour players shoot within a couple strokes round after round. They're the guys hovering around the cut line every week.

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I'd like to shoot consistently good rounds with consistent improvement rather than some great rounds and some shitty rounds.

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