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Eh..without going into all the detail as I'm sure you guys already know by now.  But, I just went to the range today to try this and seriously..I love it.

Why didn't I do this earlier..years earlier.  The transition wasn't difficult..just keeping your weight forward from the beginning and more toward impact..makes perfect sense.  I immediately noticed much more consistent contact and better compression.

But my question is does this work with the driver swing?  I was running out of balls to delve further..but for the few ball that I had left, and trying this with the driver..eh..it seemed to make my trajectory much too low.

Is this method more for irons than the driver?

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Yes it works for the driver, here is a good way to go about it

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This changed my game around too. Works with any club, but I have to watch my head. I have a tendency to translate it forward with the driver and get too steep on the ball. Resulting in low launch, high spin and short carry.

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Not an athletic swing.

if you slip you hook it off the planet like Tiger Woods did yesterday.

If you want distance its not one to emulate IMO.

Pro´s who gone with stack and tilt tends to quit it after a while.

No magic swings out there.

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lol...Its just a drill and it is a good one.

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[COLOR=A52A2A] Not an athletic swing. [/COLOR]

How do you define an athletic swing? [quote name="soon_tourpro" url="/t/56572/sean-foleys-tip-stack-and-tilt-for-contact#post_692228"]If you want distance its not one to emulate IMO.[/quote] Is Tiger's 300 yard average not distance enough for you?

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Originally Posted by Zeph

How do you define an athletic swing?

Is Tiger's 300 yard average not distance enough for you?


Jack Nicklaus, sam snead, ben Hogan before accident, arnold palmer.

Tiger can hit it so out of bounds also.

still not an athletic swing.

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Jack Nicklaus, sam snead, ben Hogan before accident, arnold palmer.

That is a list of names, not a definition. What did Ben Hogan do that Tiger does not do? [quote name="soon_tourpro" url="/t/56572/sean-foleys-tip-stack-and-tilt-for-contact#post_692253"]Tiger can hit it so out of bounds also. still not an athletic swing. [/quote] A player that can't hit it out of bounds does not exist. With a severly closed clubface, anyone will pull-hook it to oblivion. You still haven't defined your athletic swing.

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Originally Posted by soon_tourpro

Not an athletic swing.

Zeph's got you on this one. You should try to answer him though.

Originally Posted by soon_tourpro

if you slip you hook it off the planet like Tiger Woods did yesterday.

If you want distance its not one to emulate IMO.

Tiger's #1 in total driving and is leading by two. #2 in Total Driving is Hunter Mahan. It's at least even money that both will be PGA Tour winners this year.

Also, Tiger didn't "slip" - someone screamed because her son fainted.


And Sean doesn't teach S&T.; He learned a lot about geometry and whatnot from MB and AP, but that's all one can accurately say about "what he teaches."

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Originally Posted by soon_tourpro

Jack Nicklaus, sam snead, ben Hogan before accident, arnold palmer.

Tiger can hit it so out of bounds also.

still not an athletic swing.

lol I guess you don't know who Sean idolizes and who Andy and Mike studied under for several years.  His name is Mac O'Grady

Look at the S&T; book and there are plenty of pictures of these players, that's where Mac, Andy and Mike developed their patterns, by looking at the "classical" swings.

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Well, funny how the range doesn't translate to the course..I still stuck with it during the round..but hit many that were low top-spinners..which actually didn't penalize to bad.  I did hit a really well stuck 8-iron, into the wind, that was nails.  Trying to figure out how much I can/should lean into my forward leg..without over crouching.

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Originally Posted by Maverick

Well, funny how the range doesn't translate to the course..I still stuck with it during the round..but hit many that were low top-spinners..which actually didn't penalize to bad.  I did hit a really well stuck 8-iron, into the wind, that was nails.  Trying to figure out how much I can/should lean into my forward leg..without over crouching.

Just remember it's not your head putting more weight forward (it should stay relatively still and centered throughout your swing), but you put the weight forward with your hips.

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With 3 wins in march it would be good sauce for us all to follow Foley!!!  Does he finally get some validation on here and maybe a redo of the review of his DVD?

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Originally Posted by Brunogolf

With 3 wins in march it would be good sauce for us all to follow Foley!!!  Does he finally get some validation on here and maybe a redo of the review of his DVD?


Seriously? How does the content of the DVD change now that he has some wins?

The majority of the DVD is non-sensical chatter that simply doesn't match what he's trying to teach Joe Public.

Don't get me wrong I'm sure in person he's an amazing coach 1-on-1 which is also backed-up as you said because he's had 3 wins this month with his students but that doesn't mean he's capable of teaching the masses. The DVD review is spot-on and simply doesn't change because he's pulled off a few wins.

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Originally Posted by Brunogolf

With 3 wins in march it would be good sauce for us all to follow Foley!!!  Does he finally get some validation on here and maybe a redo of the review of his DVD?

His DVD sucked.

I've never doubted the information he knows or the swings he's built for his players. I've questioned the time it's taken him on occasion, and I question specifically something he was working on with Justin Rose at the Memorial last year, but beyond that, I've always felt he was one of the top instructors in the pro game, bar none.

But the DVD still sucked. Seriously, look at some of the pull quotes from the DVD in the review . They're atrocious.

I wanted to like the DVD, but as an instructional DVD, it falls flat on its face. It's just Sean rambling semi-coherently for 45 minutes. Making a DVD is difficult - I get that - but this one smelled like "oh crap, you're popular now, quick, make a DVD!"

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Originally Posted by Zeph

A player that can't hit it out of bounds does not exist. With a severly closed clubface, anyone will pull-hook it to oblivion.

Truth.


Originally Posted by Zeph

You still haven't defined your athletic swing.

Maybe he was referring to this?


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I struggle with this immensely. I know the importance of getting my weight forward, but I have to focus so much on keeping my head and upper body relatively centered that my swing usually goes out the window. When I do keep my head centered and shift my weight with my lower body, the result is usually much better. I'm still a very short hitter though. . Wish I could fix that haha

Originally Posted by iacas

Just remember it's not your head putting more weight forward (it should stay relatively still and centered throughout your swing), but you put the weight forward with your hips.



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