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RussUK
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I finally got to the range at the weeken after the snow and decided to concentrate on weight transfer and ball striking. I usd the drills recommended by Iacas and mvmac and although they made perfect sense they didnt seem to work (down to me, not the drills)

So after half a basket of hitting push slices and fats i was ready to pack it in. So i sat down and had a break.

It was then i remembered watching a Single Axis swing by a bloke called Kirk Junge. Similar to Moe Normans but with wrist hing and looking a little more "comfortable".


After 3-4 balls i was hitting it very nice each time so i know now that i will stick with it....the enjoyment is back!!!

So after reading about the 2 plane types i kept seeing that the theory is a 2 plane is better for those with good lower bodies and the single for those with a strong Core.

I am wondering if this is a sound theory as i was born with weakend medial tendons and anterior cruciate ligaments in my knees,which causes minor dislocations. I always seemed to struggle with the 2 plane and the stress put on my knees.

The single axis/plane just seems to suit my body type better and is more repeatable with less to worry about (especially with my legs)

Has anyone else come across this thought on the 2 swing planes?

Russ, from "sunny" Yorkshire = :-( 

In the bag: Driver: Ping G5 , Woods:Dunlop NZ9, 4 Hybrid: Tayormade Burner, 4-SW: Hippo Beast Bi-Metal , Wedges: Wilson 1200, Putter: Cleveland Smartsquare Blade, Ball: AD333

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I finally got to the range at the weeken after the snow and decided to concentrate on weight transfer and ball striking. I usd the drills recommended by Iacas and mvmac and although they made perfect sense they didnt seem to work (down to me, not the drills)

So after half a basket of hitting push slices and fats i was ready to pack it in. So i sat down and had a break.

It was then i remembered watching a Single Axis swing by a bloke called Kirk Junge. Similar to Moe Normans but with wrist hing and looking a little more "comfortable".

After 3-4 balls i was hitting it very nice each time so i know now that i will stick with it....the enjoyment is back!!!

We are talking one range session here?  To be honest I think it is too bad that you have not seemed to take the points that are being made to you in the other thread to heart.  I have changed things in my swing on the range and have had the push fades, the shanks the hooks and every other kind of problem you can imagine for weeks after.  I take those things as a sign that I have changed something, it is not necessarily a bad sign, you are just doing something different.  It does not always happen, but you cannot allow bad results over a session to influence your decisions.  Simply put you cannot judge the results of what you are doing buy what the ball is doing at first but by the way you are or are not changing the positions in your swing through verification.

So after reading about the 2 plane types i kept seeing that the theory is a 2 plane is better for those with good lower bodies and the single for those with a strong Core.

I am wondering if this is a sound theory as i was born with weakend medial tendons and anterior cruciate ligaments in my knees,which causes minor dislocations. I always seemed to struggle with the 2 plane and the stress put on my knees.

The single axis/plane just seems to suit my body type better and is more repeatable with less to worry about (especially with my legs)

Has anyone else come across this thought on the 2 swing planes?

I don't buy it.  Please stop looking at this kind of stuff and just work at correcting your most apparent swing fault one at a time.  I also doubt you are swinging on one plane as you think you are.  You may feel like you are, but it is probably not the reality of what is going on.  You most likely reverted back to something similar to what you were doing before and the familiarity at least allowed you to make decent contact with the ball, which is not going to help you in the long run.

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We are talking one range session here?  To be honest I think it is too bad that you have not seemed to take the points that are being made to you in the other thread to heart.  I have changed things in my swing on the range and have had the push fades, the shanks the hooks and every other kind of problem you can imagine for weeks after.  I take those things as a sign that I have changed something, it is not necessarily a bad sign, you are just doing something different.  It does not always happen, but you cannot allow bad results over a session to influence your decisions.  Simply put you cannot judge the results of what you are doing buy what the ball is doing at first but by the way you are or are not changing the positions in your swing through verification.

I don't buy it.  Please stop looking at this kind of stuff and just work at correcting your most apparent swing fault one at a time.  I also doubt you are swinging on one plane as you think you are.  You may feel like you are, but it is probably not the reality of what is going on.  You most likely reverted back to something similar to what you were doing before and the familiarity at least allowed you to make decent contact with the ball, which is not going to help you in the long run.

Thank you for your feedback Cipher, however i feel i have to respectfully disagree on sone parts. Yes, the drills may work if i had the time available to spend at the range, however golf will always be second to my family so the 7-8 times i get to play a year would be better spent actually playing.

I am very greatful for the advice given and that is now stored away for future reference, but as the saying goes "each to his own", what works for some may not work for me and vise versa.

Now as far as i am concerned the main aim of golf is simple..enjoyment. If that means hours at the range weekend after weekend grooving the perfect swing and a low handicap, then that is fine, however some people find a handicap less important. Having played for 4 years on and off due the aforemetioned condition i think maybe changes need to be made as i am ready to walk away from the game i love.

I got into the game through my Uncle, a former 2 handicap (now 5) regional ameteur player and runner up in the GB national champinship in 1969 and he has always said that it doesnt matter one bit what the swing looks like as long as it works for you and allows you to play to the level you want. i have total respect in his abilities as a self taught player. Will the swing work? only time will tell but it seems to work and the feeling was good and the enjoyment was back.

Please dont view this as confrontational as it isnt, and as i said i really appreciate the response and feedback. Its what makes this site as good as it is. And if it all goes wrong i'll be back grovelling :-)

Russ, from "sunny" Yorkshire = :-( 

In the bag: Driver: Ping G5 , Woods:Dunlop NZ9, 4 Hybrid: Tayormade Burner, 4-SW: Hippo Beast Bi-Metal , Wedges: Wilson 1200, Putter: Cleveland Smartsquare Blade, Ball: AD333

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Thank you for your feedback Cipher, however i feel i have to respectfully disagree on sone parts. Yes, the drills may work if i had the time available to spend at the range, however golf will always be second to my family so the 7-8 times i get to play a year would be better spent actually playing.

I am very greatful for the advice given and that is now stored away for future reference, but as the saying goes "each to his own", what works for some may not work for me and vise versa.

Now as far as i am concerned the main aim of golf is simple..enjoyment. If that means hours at the range weekend after weekend grooving the perfect swing and a low handicap, then that is fine, however some people find a handicap less important. Having played for 4 years on and off due the aforemetioned condition i think maybe changes need to be made as i am ready to walk away from the game i love.

I got into the game through my Uncle, a former 2 handicap (now 5) regional ameteur player and runner up in the GB national champinship in 1969 and he has always said that it doesnt matter one bit what the swing looks like as long as it works for you and allows you to play to the level you want. i have total respect in his abilities as a self taught player. Will the swing work? only time will tell but it seems to work and the feeling was good and the enjoyment was back.

Please dont view this as confrontational as it isnt, and as i said i really appreciate the response and feedback. Its what makes this site as good as it is. And if it all goes wrong i'll be back grovelling

Ultimately having fun is what it is all about.  I understand.

Nate

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"Can body type determine what swing is best to use?"

It would make sense right?  If you had a similar build to someone say, Kevin or Craig Stadler?  I see no reason why you couldn't research what works best for him and his body type as opposed to trying to get an Adam Scott swing with a Kevin Stadler body type...  seems like a good question.  Maybe one of the instructor can give you some info through their experience.  Good luck

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@RussUK You said you play 7-8 times a year and that family comes first. You'll never be able to groove a swing and play really good golf unless you put in the time practicing. That's the bottom line. It's the same as with learning a musical instrument. If you like to play, just go play and have fun. Realize you're going to make some bad shots, laugh 'em off, and hit your next shot. When your responsibilities decrease after your children grow up (I'm making an assumption) , you can take up the game more seriously if you want.

Learning and mastering a new method is going to take time and a lot of it. It could take years. You may hit two or three shots well with it at first, but you'll still end up having to practice and master the movements. The golf swing isn't that complicated. There are different ways of swinging a club, but you'll notice that the different ways all have certain fundamentals in common with each other. To be successful at it you have to execute these fundamentals correctly and this takes practice.

So put these other methods away. You'll only confuse yourself.

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