How to Get in D1 College Golf?

[nevets88]

  On 12/29/2019 at 4:20 PM, iacas said:

You're dead wrong on that one, or he is, or he didn't understand what the coach was saying exactly, or something.

High-level D1 schools are recruiting kids in 7th and 8th grades. Kids in 7th and 8th grades are talking with college coaches (most within the bounds of what the NCAA allows, some not). If you're waiting until you're a junior before you start reaching out to college programs, you've waited way too long. My own daughter has had interest since she was 14, and I'm friends with several high-level D1 college coaches. They're recruiting earlier and earlier, and locking kids down earlier and earlier.

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I'm not very familiar with the process, so bear with me. Why is this? Because technology enables easier communication? Or it's harder to find good players? 

[DaveP043]

  On 12/29/2019 at 4:13 PM, David in FL said:

This is what the tournament scores of a 17 year old going to a D-2 school next year look like.  He made the round of 32 this year in the US Junior Am and finished top 10 in the state junior.

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I didn't look too close at this originally, but this is also the scoring record of someone who didn't post all his scores.  This shows 13 scores over 6 months, and every one a T score.  I guarantee he played a lot more golf than that.  Who knows if the scores that didn't get posted were higher or lower, but that's not the right way to keep a valid handicap.  

  On 12/30/2019 at 6:29 PM, iacas said:

To break aside briefly, @DaveP043, there's a good amount of data to suggest that PGA Tour players actually benefit growing up playing somewhat easier courses, because they learn to shoot 64 or 66 or whatever, rather than just learning to shoot 73 on a hard course repeatedly.

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I think this comment is right in line with the thread.  To get to play golf in college, especially at a top-level school, it seems logical that a player will need to shoot some low scores along the way.  I've read it before, a good way to learn to score lower and feel comfortable doing it is to play on shorter and/or easier courses at times.

[iacas]

  On 12/30/2019 at 6:47 PM, nevets88 said:

I'm not very familiar with the process, so bear with me. Why is this? Because technology enables easier communication? Or it's harder to find good players? 

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Competitive reasons only. If you're waiting until the great players are 16 or 17 to start talking to them, odds are you'll have missed out on that year's best players.

[David in FL]

  On 12/30/2019 at 7:08 PM, DaveP043 said:

I didn't look too close at this originally, but this is also the scoring record of someone who didn't post all his scores.  This shows 13 scores over 6 months, and every one a T score.  I guarantee he played a lot more golf than that.  Who knows if the scores that didn't get posted were higher or lower, but that's not the right way to keep a valid handicap.  

I think this comment is right in line with the thread.  To get to play golf in college, especially at a top-level school, it seems logical that a player will need to shoot some low scores along the way.  I've read it before, a good way to learn to score lower and feel comfortable doing it is to play on shorter and/or easier courses at times.

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This is a very high end player.  He’s not keeping a handicap to play in net games against you or me...    In fact, I doubt that he actually posted them.  I’m sure they were posted by the Tournament sponsors.  The USGA and the FSGA among others.

You can find a bunch of tour pros on GHIN too.  They don’t post their casual rounds either.  I just posted this to give everyone an idea of the level of play for a very good junior who’s not even headed to a D1 school.

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[iacas]

  On 12/30/2019 at 8:17 PM, David in FL said:

This is a very high end player.  He’s not keeping a handicap to play in net games against you or me...    In fact, I doubt that he actually posted them.  I’m sure they were posted by the Tournament sponsors.  The USGA and the FSGA among others.

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The fact remains that he's not using the handicapping system properly. He's in violation of the rules (of handicapping).

It likely has no consequences, really, but @DaveP043 is just stating a fact.

[DaveP043]

  On 12/30/2019 at 8:17 PM, David in FL said:

This is a very high end player.  He’s not keeping a handicap to play in net games against you or me...    In fact, I doubt that he actually posted them.  I’m sure they were posted by the Tournament sponsors.  The USGA and the FSGA among others.

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  On 12/30/2019 at 8:31 PM, iacas said:

The fact remains that he's not using the handicapping system properly. He's in violation of the rules (of handicapping).

It likely has no consequences, really, but @DaveP043 is just stating a fact.

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Yeah, I was trying to make a point.  Lots of players need a handicap, maybe to be eligible to qualify for the US Open at this guy's level.  But many of these players don't give a damn about posting scores, its somehow beneath them.  My point, if you need the system to work FOR you, you owe it to the system to do things right.  Consequences, the Committee has the authority to modify a player's handicap, or even withdraw it, for continued "offenses".  It probably wouldn't happen, but its just rude to force a handicap committee (all volunteers) to make that kind of choice, to not to enforce the rules.

[iacas]

  On 12/30/2019 at 8:40 PM, DaveP043 said:

Yeah, I was trying to make a point.  Lots of players need a handicap, maybe to be eligible to qualify for the US Open at this guy's level.  But many of these players don't give a damn about posting scores, its somehow beneath them.  My point, if you need the system to work FOR you, you owe it to the system to do things right.  Consequences, the Committee has the authority to modify a player's handicap, or even withdraw it, for continued "offenses".  It probably wouldn't happen, but its just rude to force a handicap committee (all volunteers) to make that kind of choice, to not to enforce the rules.

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Yep. The Committee would be WELL within its rights (and one could argue it's obliged to do so) to remove his handicap for continual and ongoing breaches.

[Sandy Divot]

I know that within D1 there are different levels. I graduated from High Point College way before it became High Point University. It's small compared to most ACC or SEC schools. It might be considered a mid major in basketball terms. I wonder how the qualifications to play at a school like this would differ vs a school from a big conference?

[golflover123]

  On 12/30/2019 at 7:20 PM, iacas said:

Competitive reasons only. If you're waiting until the great players are 16 or 17 to start talking to them, odds are you'll have missed out on that year's best players.

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that the same with basketball football they get kids as early as 14

  On 12/30/2019 at 8:49 PM, iacas said:

Yep. The Committee would be WELL within its rights (and one could argue it's obliged to do so) to remove his handicap for continual and ongoing breaches.

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i think they get rid of it when you turn pro tiger had a handicap of +8 when he turn pro