Sand Wedge Bounce

[Billy Z]

  On 7/9/2021 at 5:08 PM, Esox said:

Assuming you are right handed, that is a classic over the top, outside in, wide open clubface divot. I would bet you fight one hell of a slice too. You need professional help.

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We all need professional help, even the professionals do. If that is a sand wedge divot, that's not a bad club path for a sand shot. Generally you open your stance and slightly cut across the ball which makes it look like an outside to in divot. I will defer to the more experienced swing coaches to verify what I said, but I think it's true. In the sand, you always see the professionals with an open stance, and a somewhat outside to in club path.

[Big Lex]

  On 7/9/2021 at 5:50 PM, Elmer said:

I tried getting professional help, however the teacher at the local golf shop does not focus on swing path or grip. Everytime I have gone there he focuses on weight distribution and balance. Even when I start to obsess about my take away, hand position and anything else.
"slide your weight forward and finish"

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I had a teacher in another sport say to me once, "do you want to keep talking and try to prove why you're right, or do you want to get better?" I was trying to explain why I was confused about the instruction I was being given. 

From that point, I stopped ever questioning that teacher, and I've had more success in that sport than any other thing I've ever tried. 

I know there are alot of bad teachers out there, in every walk of life. But almost every teacher I've ever had helped me. If I did what they said. 

[Big Lex]

Quick addendum to my last post...I of course have no idea whether the guy telling you to "slide your hips and finish" is correct or not, and at the very least he should be willing to explain to you why he thinks you should do it, and why he is choosing not to address path, grip, etc. And I also realize you have probably at least tried to follow his advice, without success. I hope you figure out the wedge issue. 

[Elmer]

  On 7/9/2021 at 7:10 PM, Big Lex said:

I had a teacher in another sport say to me once, "do you want to keep talking and try to prove why you're right, or do you want to get better?" I was trying to explain why I was confused about the instruction I was being given. 

From that point, I stopped ever questioning that teacher, and I've had more success in that sport than any other thing I've ever tried. 

I know there are alot of bad teachers out there, in every walk of life. But almost every teacher I've ever had helped me. If I did what they said. 

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  On 7/9/2021 at 8:25 PM, Big Lex said:

Quick addendum to my last post...I of course have no idea whether the guy telling you to "slide your hips and finish" is correct or not, and at the very least he should be willing to explain to you why he thinks you should do it, and why he is choosing not to address path, grip, etc. And I also realize you have probably at least tried to follow his advice, without success. I hope you figure out the wedge issue. 

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So on 1 hand the advice is sound. Proper weight distribution is important, without it the swing is a mess. I will give him that.
However, I am very OCD about my swing and how to do it correctly. I realize there are different variations, but I know what feels good and what works and they are not always the same.

When things go wrong for me, I need to know why. So I had asked if my take away is too inside, is my left arm supposed to be this straight, does my right arm stay close to the body or away, what is a good hint for tempo?

Questions like this, which will pop up on the course after I shank a shot. But instead of offering me answers or a discussion, I was told "listen your not trying to get on tour, so don't over think, find a swing that gets it out there, and play with it".

[Shorty]

On grass like that, bounce does absolutely nothing.

You're essentially teed up in that location.

You could do anything you wanted to on a grinder from 0 degrees of bounce to 30s degree with your wedge and it wouldn't affect what happens on a lie like that. Get yourself to some grass where you have a firmish, tightish lie and then you'll see where you are.

[Elmer]

  On 7/9/2021 at 8:39 PM, Shorty said:

On grass like that, bounce does absolutely nothing.

You're essentially teed up in that location.

You could do anything you wanted to on a grinder from 0 degrees of bounce to 30s degree with your wedge and it wouldn't affect what happens on a lie like that. Get yourself to some grass where you have a firmish, tightish lie and then you'll see where you are.

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I dont take pictures while on the golf course, but from a tight lie, I rip a similar divot.
About a foot long strip of earth!

[Shorty]

  On 7/9/2021 at 8:43 PM, Elmer said:

I dont take pictures while on the golf course, but from a tight lie, I rip a similar divot.
About a foot long strip of earth!

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Well.............are we trying to match a club to a swing or correct a swing?

 

[onthehunt526]

  On 7/9/2021 at 4:58 PM, Elmer said:

I use Ping 425 irons (including Pitch and Utility wedge)
My Volket is a 58-12D

None of these make a divot like my 54
Please note that this picture was taken in my backyard, not the course. But this is the deep divot I get with this club. I am going to over to the local Golf Shop, but I am just afraid they will try to sell me the "new" wedge as a cure to all my issues.

 

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So get a 54 with a D grind or better yet get an F grind on both.

[Shindig]

  On 7/9/2021 at 5:50 PM, Elmer said:

I have learned to control the slice by utilizing a strong grip with my left hand. This helps me not to revert back to a baseball swing. 
I also end up with more of a push than a slice.

I tried getting professional help, however the teacher at the local golf shop does not focus on swing path or grip. Everytime I have gone there he focuses on weight distribution and balance. Even when I start to obsess about my take away, hand position and anything else.
"slide your weight forward and finish"
The other guy costs $60 for 30 minutes, but is always booked.

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Do you have a "My Swing" thread?  Or an Evolvr membership?  The latter costs less for a month than your aforementioned "other guy" does for 30 minutes and the former is free.