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Read tweet below and looked it up. Wow. 55th is .316. He's also listed as 5'9" 160. I thought he was built more like skinny Tiger.

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Impressive. I would want to see what the differential typically is in all tournaments, and also in majors. Obviously the winners of any tournament will have the best SG numbers for that tournament. But what is the usual amount the winner exceeds others? And is it typically in approach shots? Or is it more often in driving? Or putting? etc. 

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18 minutes ago, Big Lex said:

Impressive. I would want to see what the differential typically is in all tournaments, and also in majors. Obviously the winners of any tournament will have the best SG numbers for that tournament. But what is the usual amount the winner exceeds others? And is it typically in approach shots? Or is it more often in driving? Or putting? etc. 

How much time do you have for an answer? :-)  

I don't remember the numbers offhand, but I'd be happy to look it up for you in Every Shot Counts.  Of course, there's been a lot more data created since that book was written.  One of my favorite information sections in that book was about players who won because of their putting (it was a very small list) and those who won despite their putting (I think Vijay Singh shows up on that list a few times).  

If that sort of thing is interesting to you, especially if you're a math nerd like me, you'd probably really enjoy Broadie's book.  

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I think I saw Morikawa's average SG putting is like -0.3 something. So he has to have an average by PGA Tour standards putting day in order to not lose stokes putting.

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I read somewhere that his approach or iron numbers were the best since Tiger was playing well.

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On 7/19/2021 at 4:30 PM, Big Lex said:

Impressive. I would want to see what the differential typically is in all tournaments, and also in majors. Obviously the winners of any tournament will have the best SG numbers for that tournament. But what is the usual amount the winner exceeds others? And is it typically in approach shots? Or is it more often in driving? Or putting? etc. 

On 7/19/2021 at 4:51 PM, Shindig said:

How much time do you have for an answer? :-)  

I don't remember the numbers offhand, but I'd be happy to look it up for you in Every Shot Counts.  Of course, there's been a lot more data created since that book was written.  One of my favorite information sections in that book was about players who won because of their putting (it was a very small list) and those who won despite their putting (I think Vijay Singh shows up on that list a few times).  

If that sort of thing is interesting to you, especially if you're a math nerd like me, you'd probably really enjoy Broadie's book.  

These images kinda answer it a little, these might have been the charts you were referring to @Shindig ?

 

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10 hours ago, klineka said:

These images kinda answer it a little, these might have been the charts you were referring to @Shindig ?

 

Yep, that's what I was thinking of.

Interestingly, I hadn't noticed this before:  Vijay Singh had two rounds near the top of putting-contribution-to-victory and two in the "won despite his putting" category, all in the same few year period.  

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