Putting

[MississippiSteve]

What’s everyone’s thoughts/opinions on getting fitted for a putter and even putting lessons? I’m looking to improve my putting.. hit 9 out of 9 GIR and not a single birdie…

[iacas]

  On 6/23/2022 at 1:46 AM, MississippiSteve said:

What’s everyone’s thoughts/opinions on getting fitted for a putter and even putting lessons? I’m looking to improve my putting.. hit 9 out of 9 GIR and not a single birdie…

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From what distances?

If you're hitting them to 35 feet… odds weren't necessarily in your favor to get a birdie.

[dennyjones]

  On 6/23/2022 at 1:46 AM, MississippiSteve said:

What’s everyone’s thoughts/opinions on getting fitted for a putter and even putting lessons? I’m looking to improve my putting.. hit 9 out of 9 GIR and not a single birdie…

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I must ask.  What was the distance of each first putt?   Maybe your expectations for making putts are extremely high.   The professionals make about 50% from 8', amateurs less.   I've attached a chart from 2018.   I don't believe it has changed much since.

If you are having trouble putting, try rolling a putt the distance of a "yard" stick.    

Search the forum for putting tips, bead, read and speed.  

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by iacas
used image we already have

[MississippiSteve]

I will start keeping up with it and report back.. I’m playing on small greens so it’s rare to have many putts over 20-30 ft… I would guess avg 10-15 feet starting point.. I would just expect a few more to fall than they are… I have very few three putts so my distance control is good, it’s just getting them birdie putts to fall.. I’ll say this, the exact same birdie putt for par I’ll make 70% of the time! 
 

[iacas]

  On 6/23/2022 at 2:20 AM, MississippiSteve said:

I would guess avg 10-15 feet starting point.. 

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Wow, unlikely:

Approaches from 100-125 yards | PGA TOUR Stats

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Strokes Gained | Greens in Regulation | Accuracy from Fairway | Accuracy from Rough | Scoring | Going for it | Holeouts, Other

Approaches from 125-150 yards | PGA TOUR Stats

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Strokes Gained | Greens in Regulation | Accuracy from Fairway | Accuracy from Rough | Scoring | Going for it | Holeouts, Other

The average distance the ball comes to rest from the hole (in feet) when a player's approach is hit from a distance greater than or equal to 125 yards and less than 150 yards. The approach shot distance must be determined by a laser, and it must originate from the fairway (or the tee box on a par 3).

[MississippiSteve]

  On 6/23/2022 at 2:23 AM, iacas said:

Wow, unlikely:

Approaches from 100-125 yards | PGA TOUR Stats

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Strokes Gained | Greens in Regulation | Accuracy from Fairway | Accuracy from Rough | Scoring | Going for it | Holeouts, Other

Approaches from 125-150 yards | PGA TOUR Stats

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Strokes Gained | Greens in Regulation | Accuracy from Fairway | Accuracy from Rough | Scoring | Going for it | Holeouts, Other

The average distance the ball comes to rest from the hole (in feet) when a player's approach is hit from a distance greater than or equal to 125 yards and less than 150 yards. The approach shot distance must be determined by a laser, and it must originate from the fairway (or the tee box on a par 3).

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My home course plays less than 6k yards.. the avg approach shot is around 50yd or less.. the greens are very small in size..

[Vinsk]

  On 6/23/2022 at 2:54 AM, MississippiSteve said:

My home course plays less than 6k yards.. the avg approach shot is around 50yd or less.. the greens are very small in size..

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Is this an executive course?

[MississippiSteve]

  On 6/23/2022 at 2:58 AM, Vinsk said:

Is this an executive course?

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No it’s not.. It’s just an older course designed in the 50’s.. it’s just a 9 green, 18 tee box course.. plays just shy of 6k feet.. par 72  

[iacas]

Okay, then … which is off: read or bead?

[MississippiSteve]

  On 6/23/2022 at 11:01 AM, iacas said:

Okay, then … which is off: read or bead?

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Man I really don’t know.. most of our greens are relatively flat so I’m gonna say the bead is off.. I feel pretty good about picking a line but I think consistently rolling it on that line may be my problem. 

[iacas]

Do you pick a very specific point or are you just putting into a fairly large area?

[klineka]

  On 6/23/2022 at 2:20 AM, MississippiSteve said:

I’ll say this, the exact same birdie putt for par I’ll make 70% of the time! 

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Without stats you're just guessing. And your guess is very likely wrong. 

[MississippiSteve]

  On 6/23/2022 at 11:41 AM, iacas said:

Do you pick a very specific point or are you just putting into a fairly large area?

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I typically will pick out a spot on my line and hit to that.. After I get my line I mainly will focus on that spot and not so much the hole.. 

  On 6/23/2022 at 12:14 PM, klineka said:

Without stats you're just guessing. And your guess is very likely wrong. 

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What all stats do you try to gather for putting? Distance from hole on first putt? What else?

[klineka]

  On 6/23/2022 at 1:18 PM, MississippiSteve said:

What all stats do you try to gather for putting? Distance from hole on first putt? What else?

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I mean you're the one claiming when faced with the exact same putt for par vs birdie you'll make the par put 70% of the time so you tell me what stats you keep to back up that claim.

[MississippiSteve]

  On 6/23/2022 at 1:24 PM, klineka said:

I mean you're the one claiming when faced with the exact same putt for par vs birdie you'll make the par put 70% of the time so you tell me what stats you keep to back up that claim.

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Obviously it was not meant literal but figuratively to imply part of my problem could be mental 

[ChetlovesMer]

Back to your original question.

My thoughts on getting fitted for a putter are: YES, you should do so. If you are in the market for a new putter. You are likely to spend at least 200 bucks and might spend 500 or even more. A putter should last you a lifetime, okay at least a long time. The point is, why wouldn't you get fit for it? @iacas fit me for a putter back in early 2019, and I've been more than happy with it and have no plans to change it any time soon. It might be the only truly secure club in my bag. Everything else could get replaced at almost any moment if something shiny catches my eye. 

In terms of a putting lesson. Again, why wouldn't you get one? If you are getting lessons anyway, it only makes sense to also get lessons on putting. Having said that, (as I'm sure you know) the best way to improve your putting is hit the ball closer to the hole.

Similarly, if you want to work on your putting, you can start today. 

Go here:

Day 8, 11, and 15 are all great putting practice. For my money, day 15 is the pick of the litter, but you can decide that for yourself. 

Good luck. 

Edited June 23, 2022 by ChetlovesMer
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[MississippiSteve]

  On 6/23/2022 at 1:50 PM, ChetlovesMer said:

Back to your original question.

My thoughts on getting fitted for a putter are: YES, you should do so. If you are in the market for a new putter. You are likely to spend at least 200 bucks and might spend 500 or even more. A putter should last you a lifetime, okay at least a long time. The point is, why wouldn't you get fit for it? @iacas fit me for a putter back in early 2019, and I've been more than happy with it and have no plans to change it any time soon. It might be the only truly secure club in my bag. Everything else could get replaced at almost any moment if something shiny catches my eye. 

In terms of a putting lesson. Again, why wouldn't you get one? If you are getting lessons anyway, it only makes sense to also get lessons on putting. Having said that, (as I'm sure you know) the best way to improve your putting is hit the ball closer to the hole.

Similarly, if you want to work on your putting, you can start today. 

Go here:

Day 8, 11, and 15 are all great putting practice. For my money, day 15 is the pick of the litter, but you can decide that for yourself. 

Good luck. 

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Awesome, thanks for sharing!

[Friz]

do you use a line on your ball to align putts?  and if so, do you feel confident in your ability to roll that line when putting?  at the very least, this could determine whether you're missing putts because of an inconsistent putting stroke, or the read is just off.

I for one need to get way better at reading greens, but feel pretty good about my ability to keep the ball on my intended line.  So any putting stroke I'm making is generally pick my line and roll that line, so when I'm making the stroke I'm mainly focused on trying to get the correct speed.