Mizuno Combo Iron Question

[dumbazz42]

 

So, I’ve been playing the 923 forged for a few months. I Liked them, but didn’t feel like short irons were precise.  
I borrowed a buddy’s 923 tours, and for me it’s night and day with the short irons.   They are extremely accurate for me.  Spin is exactly how I ant it to be, they are easy to flight, etc.  

 

I thought I would go with a combo set of 923s and forged.  Mizuno provides a recommendation on loft adjustments needed.    Of course, this will impact  the bounce, which causes a slight concern.  
 

However, I was just thinking about distance differences, and was thinking about just going with two 7 irons instead of adjusting lofts.  
Tour 7 iron goes about 160….and the forged 7 iron goes just shy of  175.   (Haven’t been on my launch monitor…just observations on the course)

 

Im thinking of going this route.    The only downside I see is resale value (because it could be perceived to be weird)….but I honestly don’t care about that aspect. Any other potential downsides?    Has anyone tried this before?    
 

I want to pull thee trigger, but just wanted to make sure I wasn’t forgetting something simple.   Thanks in advance for any responses. 

[Vinsk]

Maybe I’m not reading this right but the number on the club doesn’t really matter. It’s the distance you hit the club. I’m a little confused though, are you calling a 7i a short iron? 

[billchao]

If you ask me, it doesn’t matter what the number stamped on the bottom of the club says. If it works for you, go for it.

Just make sure to remember when you ask your buddy to bring you the 7i from your bag and he brings you the wrong one, it’s your fault 😉

[dumbazz42]

7 hours ago, Vinsk said:

Maybe I’m not reading this right but the number on the club doesn’t really matter. It’s the distance you hit the club. I’m a little confused though, are you calling a 7i a short iron? 

No, I’m not calling a 7 iron a short iron.   That point is irrelevant.  
My question is…is there a downside that I’m not thinking of that makes this not ideal? 
I understand that the number on the club doesn’t matter,….this is why I’m considering this option.   (Of course the obvious downside is that I accidentally pull the wrong 7 iron…ha)

 

Think about this….Mizuno’s own website suggests to bend lofts when doing a combo set.   
Mizuno doesn’t suggest carrying two 7 irons.  Mizuno’s website would seem to indicate that bending an 8 iron 2 degrees strong is the right play here.   I’m thinking that 2 degrees less bounce could be an issue….but Mizuno evidently does not see this as an issue.   
 

Again, is there a downside of 2 different 7 irons that I’m missing here?   IE; ratio of launch to spin changes dramatically, flight window variations from club to club aren’t in line, etc.  

The 7 iron forged is only 30 degrees while the tour is 34.   This 4 degree gap is typically ideal, but that is assuming the club is built similar, which they are not.  CG is different, total weight is different, etc. 
 

 

7 hours ago, billchao said:

If you ask me, it doesn’t matter what the number stamped on the bottom of the club says. If it works for you, go for it.

Just make sure to remember when you ask your buddy to bring you the 7i from your bag and he brings you the wrong one, it’s your fault 😉

I understand that what is stamped doesn’t matter,..thus the reason for considering this option.   
I am wondering why Mizuno’s own site does not suggest a combo in this fashion.  They suggest bending lofts, and they certainly know their clubs better than mine.  
 

One thing that I was wondering about was the spin ratio.    For example, I would normally assume a 1K difference from club to club.    I wonder if that would remain,…or if the difference here would be greater.   The loft difference is 4 degrees, but the CG is positioned differently in the forged vs the tour.   Therefore, would the launch potentially not be a 4 degree difference,…and spin difference not be at the 1K mark I would typically see?    
 

Ultimately, I guess there is no risk going with two 7 irons.   If the flight windows change too dramatically, I could always just go bend the irons anyways(as Mizuno suggests) , and leave the 7 iron at home.  
 

 

[billchao]

19 minutes ago, dumbazz42 said:

I am wondering why Mizuno’s own site does not suggest a combo in this fashion.  They suggest bending lofts, and they certainly know their clubs better than mine.

It probably has something to do with not having an extra iron. A set of eight irons (3-PW) in a blended combo covers the same distance that your proposed set of nine irons does, just with larger gaps between irons.

That, and to avoid the confusion of having two 7i in the bag.

22 minutes ago, dumbazz42 said:

One thing that I was wondering about was the spin ratio.    For example, I would normally assume a 1K difference from club to club.    I wonder if that would remain,…or if the difference here would be greater.   The loft difference is 4 degrees, but the CG is positioned differently in the forged vs the tour.   Therefore, would the launch potentially not be a 4 degree difference,…and spin difference not be at the 1K mark I would typically see?

You’re not going to know any of this without hitting them in a launch monitor.

[klineka]

1 hour ago, dumbazz42 said:

Ultimately, I guess there is no risk going with two 7 irons. 

I mean the most obvious risk is that you grab the wrong one if you aren't paying attention. 

Or if you ask the person in the cart with you to grab your 7 iron and they grab the wrong one.

 

Mark Crossfield on YouTube has 2 Pitching Wedges for a similar reason as you. He explains it around the 2:20 mark of this video

 

Edited July 6, 2023 by klineka

[boogielicious]

9 hours ago, klineka said:

I mean the most obvious risk is that you grab the wrong one if you aren't paying attention. 

Or if you ask the person in the cart with you to grab your 7 iron and they grab the wrong one.

 

Mark Crossfield on YouTube has 2 Pitching Wedges for a similar reason as you. He explains it around the 2:20 mark of this video

 

That dude needs to lay off the caffeine!

Blended sets can work if you get the gaps right. There are a few Pros that do it.