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i am a titleist guy myself. but mizuno irons are the best!
i have mx23 and mp32 mix set.
but they are kind of short compare when i hit my friend's AP2.

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I have had the MP-57s for a few months now and have been very pleased with the consistency and feel. I love the look as well. Very solid iron.

In my Bag
Driver R9 Super-Tri
3 Hybrid A3 Boxer 19 degree
4 Hybrid A3 Boxer 22 degree
Irons 4-PW MP-57 ProjectX 6.0GW: 52 degreeWedges: 56, 60 degreePutter Backstryke 2-BallBall TP Black


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I hit both a lot before I bought my set, I was really stuck between the AP2 and the MP57's.

It came down to feel and control, i went with mizuno, and now I'm a mizuno wh0re.

Aerolite III bag
MP600 10.5*
F-50 15*
MP57's Project X 5.5 3-PW
CG10 56* RAC 52* 60* 2 Ball putter ProV1/ProV1X Blackberry Storm GolfLogix


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Mizuno for sure, but I do hit the Titleist blades just as well.

When is Mizuno coming out with their new blades to replace the MP67?

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Mizuno for sure, but I do hit the Titleist blades just as well.

I wasn't aware they were coming out with anything to replace them. Aren't they fairly new themselves?

What they need to do is come out with something to replace the MP-60's. Their current lineup basically has 2 players clubs (the 62 and 67) and 2 clubs that are easier to hit (the 52 and 57). There is really no middle "blend" of a small amount of forgiveness with more characteristics of a blade/muscle back.
Penta TP Ball || Nakashima Golf HTEC Tour Driver - w/ Mitsubishi Rayon Bassara 83g || Izett Golf 15* Deep Face 3-Wood - w/ Royal Precision Rifle Steel || MD 18* Hybrid - w/ Aerotech SteelFiber 110g || MP-58 3, 4 Irons... MP-60 5, 6 Irons... MP-32 7-PW - w/ Dynamic Gold || MP-T 53-08...

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Been playing Mizuno MP-14s since I was a sophomore in high school (i.e. 13 yrs). My handicap has gone up a tad, as I don't get to play as often as I used to, but I have never felt a more solid club when hit right. Then again, I have only looked for new irons twice. I also liked the MacGregor PMBs when they were available.

In a staff blue  Aerolite III

Razr Hawk 10.5* (BB 63 S)
Orig Steelhead 4W 16.8* (F)
Orig Steelhead 7W 20* (M-10)

 JPX-800 Pro 4-pw (XP S300)

 MP-T Blk Ni 51.06, MP-T Blk Ni 56.14, MP-T Blk Ni 58.10

  Bettinardi BC-1 (34")

TM TP Black


  • 8 months later...
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I am looking to purchase either Titleist AP2's or Mizuno MP 62's or 58's. Was using the MP 57's for past fifteen months - until they were stolen! Have hit the AP2's but with shafts too stiff for me. Not able to hit the other Miz irons, as there are no Miz dealers where I live.
Have read many Sandtrap comments and seems as though the "jury is still out" on whether to go for AP2's or the Miz irons. How good are the Miz 62's? Are they harder to hit, shape, control than the AP2's?
Thanks
back of the cup

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i had the MP-57's and wasnt a fan of them
also hit the AP2's...they were ok

if your considering Titleist, have you hit the new 710 CB's?
they are absoluetly amazing-to say the least.....i wish my wallet (wife) would let me get them :)
"My swing is homemade - but I have perfect flaws!" - Me

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I own the AP2 and honestly, they're one of the nicest irons i've ever hit. When you hit it solid it comes out so pure, you barely even feel it. The Mizuno's are nice but when I step up to the ball i'm a very aesthetic player, i tend to play better when my clubs look good, and i like the appearance of the AP2s much more, but thats just me.

My bag:
Driver: 909D2
3-Wood: 909F2
Iron: AP2 3-PW
Wedges: Vokey 52, 56, 60Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2.6 35"


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Thanks enis750.
HAve looked at the 710 CB's but after spending so much time narrowing down my search to the AP2's or Miz 58 or 62's, I don't want to get even more confused. I am down to a 1 in 3 choice.......and STILL not any closer to a decision. Does the fact that the AP2's have the v-grooves, make my choice any easier?

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I love the feel of Mizuno irons. The only other clubmaker's irons that I like are Ben Hogan.

STR8 Dymo 10.5
Dymo 3W
Mid Rescue 3
MP-33 4-PW
Eidolon 52* GW LW, SW Titleist Bullseye Putter


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Titleist versus Mizuno?

One is better than the other since when? They both make a boatload of irons (that are still readily available) that could suit any type of player. Anyone who prefers the looks of the new 710 MB must also like early Mizzie blades since they look like older Mizunos. Then again, some old Mizunos look like vintage Acushnet blades.

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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I have MP-57s. I've had MP-67s. I'd play ZB forged or ZM forged any day.

Me da lo mismo.

driver: FT-i tlcg 9.5˚ (Matrix Ozik XCONN Stiff)
4 wood: G10 (ProLaunch Red FW stiff)
3 -PW: :Titleist: 695 mb (Rifle flighted 6.0)
wedges:, 52˚, 56˚, 60˚
putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5


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I play MP-60's, MP-32's and a couple irons in the new MP-58's. I love them, and more than likely I am hooked on Mizuno for life. That said, if Titleist walked up to me and offered me an endorsement contract to play the 710 MB's or CB's, I'd sign immediately because they are both great companies and both make some sweet clubs.

I play Mizuno mainly because I play longer clubs with thicker grips, ergo I need a lighter clubhead, and I know for a fact that Mizuno makes a lighter "B" weight club, which makes it easier to balance my clubs. Titleist very well may do this too, I don't really know, but if they don't then you can't really grind any weight off a chromed club without marring the finish.

Long story short, I prefer Mizuno, but I don't really know how much better one is than the other. I suspect that if Mizuno had enough money to throw at players for endorsement contracts as Titleist does, we'd see far more Mizuno irons in players bags, but really it's all subjective.
Penta TP Ball || Nakashima Golf HTEC Tour Driver - w/ Mitsubishi Rayon Bassara 83g || Izett Golf 15* Deep Face 3-Wood - w/ Royal Precision Rifle Steel || MD 18* Hybrid - w/ Aerotech SteelFiber 110g || MP-58 3, 4 Irons... MP-60 5, 6 Irons... MP-32 7-PW - w/ Dynamic Gold || MP-T 53-08...

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Mizuno fan here... Titleist irons feel dead to me upon impact when I have gamed them.

:cleveland:         Classic 10.5° w/ Miyazaki C.Kua Limited X-Stiff
:cleveland:         Launcher FL 3 Wood 17° w/ Miyazaki C. Kua Stiff
:cleveland:         Mashie 3H 20.5° w/ Miyazaki C. Kua Stiff
:mizuno:   MP-57 4 - PW w/ Dynamic Gold S300
:cleveland:         588 - 52° 56° 60°
:scotty_cameron:          Studio Newport 2
:srixon:              Z-Star Tour Yellow 


  • 1 month later...
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Switched from my Mizzy MP-52s and prior to that Titleist 695 mb, to the MP 68 just to see what the new blades could do for me,and to put it succinctly, these blades are just amazing in every way. Appearance is amazing and the feel and distance is phenomenal. These blades will let me fire at pins. Mizzys just seem to have a softer feel and a bit more forgiveness and workability than Titleist, however, Titleist would be my next choice of irons.


Driver 905, 9.5degree, Pro Force V2
3 Wood, 906F2, 15 degree, Pro Force V2
5 Hybrid, 909F2, 17 degree, Diamana Blue
MP 68, 3-PW, Project X 5.5
54.06 spin milled, 60.04
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: Studio Select Squareback 2


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when I was looking to buy irons I first got hooked on the ap2's at a golf demo, but then heard alot about mizuno on this forum. So I demo'd the mizuno mp-58 and the titleist ap2 side by side and shot after shot. They were about the same performance wise in my opinion and feel wise I thought they felt the same. I was swayed towards getting the ap2's because I felt I was getting the ball up better and that might be because of the tungsten insert on the sole.

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