Too Fast Play?

[David in FL]

38 minutes ago, KrisF said:

What the heck man? You think im trolling evreytime I speak...

To be honest, by asking if you’re trolling, @iacas is giving you the benefit of the doubt...

...the only other response to “I play slow, and honestly do not care about who is behind me.” Is to believe that you’re just rude and completely insensitive to others around you.

52 minutes ago, cox34j said:

And those times you are arguing are slow for me personally.  But I also am pragmatic to realize if I try to play 9 holes in under 90 mins, I am costing myself strokes.  That's me personally.  I also don't bulldoze those who play 2 to 2.5 hour 9 hole rounds, because that's a reasonable time for most people.

18 holes in under 2 hours, group of 4?  6.6 mins per hole?  1 min 36 secs per stroke (if they shot par).  That's pretty cool story.

And that 1 min 36 secs per stroke is for 1 person.  Doesn't factor in the other players, and needing to travel to the ball between shots.  Again, cool story.

2:10 for a two-some, sub-2:30 for 4.  

Now you understand why I say that you might not understand the speed with which some can comfortably play...and play relatively well.

What you’re comfortable with does not necessarily translate to others.

[KrisF]

15 minutes ago, David in FL said:

To be honest, by asking if you’re trolling, @iacas is giving you the benefit of the doubt...

...the only other response to “I play slow, and honestly do not care about who is behind me.” Is to believe that you’re just rude and completely insensitive to others around you.

 

I dont want argue about this at all, but if someone is stuck behind me they can come up and ask to play through, but where I play the Starter tell folks, "Dont rush others and be patient". I took that as okay I dont need to worry about who is behind me and I dont need to rush anyone in front of me if there playing slower than me.

Sorry, for the run on sentence.

[mcanadiens]

7 minutes ago, KrisF said:

I dont want argue about this at all, but if someone is stuck behind me they can come up and ask to play through, but where I play the Starter tell folks, "Dont rush others and be patient". I took that as okay I dont need to worry about who is behind me and I dont need to rush anyone in front of me if there playing slower than me.

Sorry, for the run on sentence.

If that's what your course instructs people so be it.

In general, it is the slower group in front that should have the courtesy to invite the faster group through.

 

Edited July 22, 2019 by mcanadiens

[pganapathy]

4 minutes ago, KrisF said:

I dont want argue about this at all, but if someone is stuck behind me they can come up and ask to play through, but where I play the Starter tell folks, "Dont rush others and be patient". I took that as okay I dont need to worry about who is behind me and I dont need to rush anyone in front of me if there playing slower than me.

Sorry, for the run on sentence.

Take that approach to an extreme and you will wind up with 6+ hour rounds.  Pace of play is important for everybody to have a fun round.  It is painful being on a course where you wait for every shot because the group in front is so slow.  I once played behind a group who were very slow and refused to let us go through.  Unfortunately they were members and I was not, so didn't want to face issues at the course.  That kind of thing is enough to put people off from returning.  You are not helping the growth of the golf game by playing at a slow pace and not caring about it.  You really should be quicker

[KrisF]

1 minute ago, mcanadiens said:

If that's what your course instructs people so be it.

In general, it is the slower group in front that should have the courtesy to invite the faster group through.

 

That is very true.

[klineka]

2 minutes ago, mcanadiens said:

In general, it is the slower group in front that should have the courtesy to invite the faster group through.

Just now, KrisF said:

That is very true.

But clearly you don't do that though...

2 hours ago, KrisF said:

I play slow, and honestly do not care about who is behind me. If there mad they can ask me to play through or slow down there pace.

 

[KrisF]

1 minute ago, pganapathy said:

Take that approach to an extreme and you will wind up with 6+ hour rounds.  Pace of play is important for everybody to have a fun round.  It is painful being on a course where you wait for every shot because the group in front is so slow.  I once played behind a group who were very slow and refused to let us go through.  Unfortunately they were members and I was not, so didn't want to face issues at the course.  That kind of thing is enough to put people off from returning.  You are not helping the growth of the golf game by playing at a slow pace and not caring about it.  You really should be quicker

 I do care about my slow play as it helps me. 

[pganapathy]

1 minute ago, KrisF said:

 I do care about my slow play as it helps me. 

You might think it does, but if you actually play a bit quicker, you will actually see better results.  The reason is because you are playing when your muscles are warm, rather than after it has cooled down.  Try it a couple of rounds and see the difference.

[KrisF]

Just now, klineka said:

But clearly you don't do that though...

 

Let me give you some details here, I am -playing- the fast group decides not to wait for me at the tee box to ask if they can play though. So its quite frustrating when someone asks you during your stroke.

As I said in another thread I have a hard time elaborating details.

[klineka]

1 minute ago, KrisF said:

I am -playing- the fast group decides not to wait for me at the tee box to ask if they can play though. So its quite frustrating when someone asks you during your stroke.

So let me get this right, you're saying that groups approach you and interrupt you and ask you during the middle of your swing if they can play through?

I don't believe you.

[KrisF]

1 minute ago, klineka said:

So let me get this right, you're saying that groups approach you and interrupt you and ask you during the middle of your swing if they can play through?

I don't believe you.

Well it certainly happens at my course, the problem here is its hard to believe someone when your not actually there.

Just now, KrisF said:

Well it certainly happens at my course, the problem here is its hard to believe someone when your not actually there.

If you were at the course I play at I could you show you numerous people that have no respect for me and the other slow players.

[leftybutnotPM]

20 minutes ago, KrisF said:

 I do care about my slow play as it helps me. 

What you're saying here is "I don't give  a ***t about anyone else.

I can tell you without any hesitation that if you played at any club I've played at and had that attitude, within a week you would be known as the biggest jerk in the club and the only people who would play with you would be others who noone else could stand. Also, you'd put your name down on a timesheet and turn up to find, mysteriously, that you were suddenly playing on your own.

There is a 100% correlation between arsehole golfers and arsehole people. If you are a selfish dick on the course, it means that that's what you are in life.

[KrisF]

1 minute ago, leftybutnotPM said:

What you're saying here is "I don't give  a ***t about anyone else.

I can tell you without any hesitation that if you played at any club I've played at and had that attitude, within a week you would be known as the biggest jerk in the club and the only people who would play with you would be others who noone else could stand. Also, you'd put your name down on a timesheet and turn up to find, mysteriously, that you were suddenly playing on your own.

There is a 100% correlation between arsehole golfers and arsehole people. If you are a selfish dick on the course, it means that that's what you are in life.

Thats just great, im now an "arsehole" great way to ruin my reputation on TST.

[leftybutnotPM]

6 minutes ago, KrisF said:

Thats just great, im now an "arsehole" great way to ruin my reputation on TST.

You have admitted it by saying that you don't care if people behind you have to wait for you. And that slow play works for you.

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I play slow, and honestly do not care about who is behind me. 

 

Edited July 22, 2019 by leftybutnotPM

[KrisF]

5 minutes ago, leftybutnotPM said:

You have admitted it by saying that you don't care if people behind you have to wait for you. And thatslow play works for you.

Yes slow play works for me. I said this earlier those people behind me have disrespected me by teeing off when I am in the middle of the fairway and on top of that told me, if they could play through while I am in the middle of the fairway making my second shot. So why should I care about them if they dont care about me and my safety?

Edited July 22, 2019 by KrisF

[Vinsk]

4 minutes ago, KrisF said:

Yes slow play works for me. I said this earlier those people behind me have disrespected me by teeing off when I am in the middle of the fairway and on top of that told me, if they could play through while I am in the middle of the fairway making my second shot. So why should I care about them if they dont care about me and my safety?

If you’re playing by yourself and groups are playing through....you’re still the problem. No way in hell should a 2-4 ball be waiting on you if you’re by yourself. 

[mcanadiens]

Just out of curiosity @KrisF, exactly how slow are you?

How long does your average round take?

Edited July 22, 2019 by mcanadiens

[iacas]

18 minutes ago, KrisF said:

Thats just great, im now an "arsehole" great way to ruin my reputation on TST.

You’re doing that yourself.