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http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/10775

Well worth a watch if you missed it the first time around on PBS.

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Thanks for the link. That was really interesting.

Tim Clark, eh? Too bad they couldn't go into more specifics, but it is Charlie Rose, not the Golf Channel. Now I'm definitely going to give the book a second look when I'm at B&N.;

It was interesting seeing how they were straddling the line - trying to make their point but not tick off too many people at the same time. Not possible.

I just recently noticed, Charlie Rose is on Hulu now if you're looking for a second source.

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I'm a little surprised they didn't mention Sean O'Hair. Sergio and Tim Clark are pretty good examples though.

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I'm a little surprised they didn't mention Sean O'Hair. Sergio and Tim Clark are pretty good examples though.

Here's the rumor: Sean Foley, Sean O'Hair's teacher, is teaching O'Hair S&T; straight from the DVDs. Sean is almost as close to the S&T; model as Charlie Wi... and Johnny Miller and a bunch of other people gush about how good Sean's swing is.

It goes to show what putting a label on something can do.

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Here's the rumor: Sean Foley, Sean O'Hair's teacher, is teaching O'Hair S&T; straight from the DVDs. Sean is almost as close to the S&T; model as Charlie Wi... and Johnny Miller and a bunch of other people gush about how good Sean's swing is. It goes to show what putting a label on something can do.

Yeah, thats what i was talking about. Wasn't there a Golf Digest or Golf Magazine article where they interviewed his instructor? IIRC they basically said everything about S&T; except the works Stack and Tilt.

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Wasn't there a Golf Digest or Golf Magazine article where they interviewed his instructor? IIRC they basically said everything about S&T; except the works Stack and Tilt.

I haven't got a clue what you're talking about!!!! P.S. Seriously, it's written by "Sean Martin"? How many freakin' Seans does it take to screw in a light bulb?

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You know, you must have linked to that before, it looks oddly familiar...

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Nice interview. They looked a bit nervous at the start. I thought they did a good job of explaining that you can use some of the elements.

I've been focusing in on Pro player swings a lot since I've read the book. I see a lot of players using most of the principles. Especially, right leg straightening and spine tilt to the left at the top.

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Nice interview. They looked a bit nervous at the start. I thought they did a good job of explaining that you can use some of the elements.

ok, its just golf. not defining the principles that govern the laws of nature... during the interview, andy seemed a bit...intense? he had a bit of that "crazy guy eyes" going on...

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I watched most of the interview on tv and it was interesting.

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