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It pains me to finally realize that at about a 28 handicap or so, the TM irons in my sig are probably out of my league. I love it when I hit them well, but my swing is not yet as consistent as I need it to be to effectively game them. I am looking at Callaway x-20s or other irons... anyone think that they are really easy to game? If not, any other suggestions?
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I hate to break it to you, but the Callaway's are almost identical in performance to the Taylormade's. The really only SGI irons that I know of are the Ping Raptures or some of the Adams Idea line. Sorry I couldn't provide more insight.

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You've already got clubs from the most forgiving club company - Adams. Why not get the A7OS or A4OS? I had them, and they were very forgiving. But the MOST forgiving irons I ever had (also according to Ralph Maltby, the most forgiving), are the Callaway Fusion Wide Sole. Unbelievably easy to hit. The X-20 are somewhat similar, but the Fusion Wide Soles are the most forgiving irons ever! And they're LONG.

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I was right where you are a year ago. Figured I needed a real change so I hit the Adams 3OS and really liked them, but ended up really liking the Cobra Transition S set. Like the Adams OS sets, the Cobra Transitions are Ultimate Game Improvement irons/hybrids and while I would love it if my game was better suited to a more standard club, these really allow me to enjoy the game so much moew. I guess at my age I'm willing to let technology be my friend.
At your young age, perhaps it would help to use a Gamd Improvement set for a while until you can grove a better game ... whish I had had that option when I was your age. Would have saved so much frustration in those early years.

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Rapture

or

G15

but get fitted to the right one for your current swing...

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Why not spend the money on some lessons so you can hit those R7s
Those are nice sticks
otherwise if you REALLY want new clubs, ^^^ what that guy said. Ping G series shoots the ball straight in the air.
I say learn how to hit the R7s

My Clubs:
Ping I3 + blade 3-pw
9.5 09 Burner with prolaunch red
Nickent 4dx driver
Taylormade Z tp 52, 56, 60
YES Carolyne putter

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Why not spend the money on some lessons so you can hit those R7s

Good advice on lessons. Get your swing stabilized, and then consider if you need to switch clubs.

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Why not spend the money on some lessons so you can hit those R7s

My advice was based on the original post question which was

"Easy to hit Irons" ...they did not ask how to improve or how to hit their R7's which are nice irons...I would agree if you want to learn to hit more advanced irons then you should work on your swing but maybe some people just want to play the game for fun and take advanatage of technology in order to do so? And on the G15's, it is all based on how you swing but yes GI irons are meant to help you get the ball in the air and recently I was reviewing some pictures of the Bob Hope tournament in Vegas and I saw a couple of pro's with the G15's actually in their bag (complete set not just 3 irons) so I see it as a set you can grow with but are "easy to hit irons" initially then most irons...just my 2 cents.

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And on the G15's, it is all based on how you swing but yes GI irons are meant to help you get the ball in the air and recently I was reviewing some pictures of the Bob Hope tournament in Vegas and I saw a couple of pro's with the G15's actually in their bag (complete set not just 3 irons) so I see it as a set you can grow with but are

Wait, what? The Hope tournament on the PGA TOUR is in Palm Springs, not Vegas. Was this the tournament you reference? Some pros had it on their hats, and maybe for woods/hybrids, but I'd be surprised if they were in someone's bag as irons. Mind if I ask who?

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I am going to get lessons as well. I'm thinking of getting a clone set of the x-20s from pinemeadow golf... I want to play now with an easy to hit set, and then go back to the R7's when my swing is more stable. In the meantime, I want to have fun on the golf course while I'm still learning the game. I never said I would get rid of the R7's, they are nice sticks. Would just getting some of the lower irons from a super gi set and keeping my 9i and up in the R7 set work too?
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Rather than clones, check out Callaway Golf Preowned. You can probably get a nice set of Callaway irons -either the 20's or 18's- for a good price. Ping G5's are a cheaper option than the G15's, and it's hard to go wrong with Ping. You might also check out Wilson Staff D7 or D9, and as someone else mentioned, Adams makes great clubs.

I am a 12, and play the R7's as well as Ping G2's. While the G2's are thicker and more offset than I might like, I shoot my best rounds with them and will never get rid of them. They may go to the backup set on occasion, but have a way of returning to the main bag.

Play whatever clubs you hit the best consistently. You will have more fun.
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Kilbyman,
I have three reccomendations and they get progressively radical in concept.
1. Ping Rapture - Ping has the best "generic" fitting system of all the big name golf equipment makers.
2. Find a certified PCS (Professional Clubfitters' Society) or ICG (International Clubmakers Guild) Clubfitter and have them build you a set (might not be as expensive as you think.)
3. Read up on the concept of "single length Golf Clubs or check out the type of clubs that I use, see signature. I get PMs a lot asking about them and I always reply.

Or, just use the old trial and error method until you find the clubs you like.

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The r7 irons are definitely not in the same league as X-20s in terms of forgiveness. The X-18s and 20s are the most forgiving irons on the market that I've ever hit. The Adams A7 and A7OS irons are both really good choices too. The r7 irons are more of a mid-handicappers club, in my opinion. I think you've got a great idea with the X-20s. But spending some money on lessons to learn to hit the r7s wouldn't be the worst idea in the world either.

What's in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag:

Driver - Taylormade Superfast 2.0 TP 10.5
3 Wood - Taylormade Burner 15* REAX
Hybrid - Adams Idea Pro 18* GD YSQ-HL

Irons - Callaway X-18 4-PW

GW - Cleveland 588 51*

SW - Cleveland CG 12 56*

LW - Cleveland CG15 60*

Putter - Cameron Studio Style Newport 2

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You're 24 though, R7s aren't super hard irons to hit even the TP versions aren't that hard
If you're having troubles hitting R7s you will still have troubles with G series I series, A3s-whatever #.
Now if the R7s aren't properly fit to you, ya go buy some pings or something, you'll notice a difference for sure.

My Clubs:
Ping I3 + blade 3-pw
9.5 09 Burner with prolaunch red
Nickent 4dx driver
Taylormade Z tp 52, 56, 60
YES Carolyne putter

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You are making the classic mistake that so many golfers make, and the golf club companies love this mistake. You believe that there's a club out there that will enable you to hit the ball better. Many people go out and buy set after set, hoping to find that one that hits the ball straight and pure. This is simply not true. The club doesn't hit the ball, you do. There's one one really important thing to consider, and that's fitting. Any competent local golf shop should be able to bend your R7s to the proper lie angle, and it's dirt cheap, my local shop does it for free, some charge a little, maybe a dollar or two a club. This is so important, without it, you could be counting crows if you hope to ever get better.

R7s are quite easy to hit, and while there are designs that are far more forgiving, they should be just fine for a person of normal build and athletic ability. The fact of the matter is, that any cavity back iron in the game improvement category is going to be fairly easy to hit. What's very, very hard, is to hit any club with a flawed swing. The best investment any golfer can make, is a video camera. Film your swing, and submit it so we can see it, or use another site that offers the same service, there are many.

Most people are shocked to see themselves on video. I like to film people's swings, and show them the results just to see the look on their faces. What we may feel to be a good, on plane swing, may be a terrible hack at the ball. You cannot honestly rely on your own feelings when it comes to working on your golf swing. When I bought a camera, I couldn't break 110 on a good day. After just a few months of working with the camera, I was a single digit handicap. The camera doesn't lie, so rely on it to tell the truth.
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