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Now, my goal is to get back down to about 200, and be sexy and athletic... A guy can dream, can't he?

Hey, that's absolutely possible. I hate reality TV but I will watch the biggest loser, and find myself completely inspired by these people who make life changes. I am trying not to make this post sound preachy here and I know what they are doing on TV is little unrealistic. But it's still inspiration regardless...

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Hey, that's absolutely possible. I hate reality TV but I will watch the biggest loser, and find myself completely inspired by these people who make life changes. I am trying not to make this post sound preachy here and I know what they are doing on TV is little unrealistic. But it's still inspiration regardless...

The irony is, my mother is a dietitian. She's not just an expert, she's a specialist, certified in intensive care and both TPN, and TEN (tube feeding). So, being her son, you can imagine, I had trouble because my mother was always reading labels, preaching about calories, and so on. You know how you tend to go against your parents as a kid? Most people have a mother who cooks tasty meals and tells them to clean off their plates. My mother cooked healthy meals and told me to leave some.

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I am one of those people. I was mountaing biking 30 miles a day at one point when I lived in Phoenix, and weighed 220 lbs. I ballooned up to 290 when I came back to Florida, but now am back down to 260. I have always been able to leg press about 450-500 lbs. My forearms are very, very strong due to the fact I play the piano for a living. A lot of people are suprised how strong and agile I am despite being overweight.

Hey, it is definately possible with will power. I was 274 lbs in August '08, and now I am 201 lbs. With some exercise and decent nutrition, it can be reached. Just need to be realistic with it that it won't happen overnight and that it is a lifestyle change, which is where the willpower comes in.

Good luck with your goals. As for the original post, rubbish. I saw a Inside the PGA Tour show on the Golf Channel last year that featured Lucas Glover, and he is a gym rat, in there daily and he had incredible core strength.
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Hey, it is definately possible with will power. I was 274 lbs in August '08, and now I am 201 lbs. With some exercise and decent nutrition, it can be reached. Just need to be realistic with it that it won't happen overnight and that it is a lifestyle change, which is where the willpower comes in.

Yes, I'm doing quite well. I'm also keeping in mind that it goes up and down, and the downs need to simply outweigh the ups. I'm looking to cross to 259 this week. I am counting calories too, 2000 a day + driving range, chipping, putting + excersise. It's slow going, but I feel so much better already. I cannot believe I let myself get to nearly 300 lbs. I didn't even really realize it until I started finding it impossible to attract women who weren't single mothers who smoked and weighed 200 lbs. That was the turning point.

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Yes, I'm doing quite well. I'm also keeping in mind that it goes up and down, and the downs need to simply outweigh the ups. I'm looking to cross to 259 this week. I am counting calories too, 2000 a day + driving range, chipping, putting + excersise. It's slow going, but I feel so much better already. I cannot believe I let myself get to nearly 300 lbs. I didn't even really realize it until I started finding it impossible to attract women who weren't single mothers who smoked and weighed 200 lbs. That was the turning point.

Congrats on the weight loss, keep at it. Losing weight is not a mystery like some people pretend it is. It is just hard to force yourself to do it.

I will say I'd rather have your problem (and I do, I was an athletic 190 in college and am a puffy 250 right now) than the flipside. Guys who are 135 soaking wet even eating tons of McDonalds every day are the ones I feel sorry for. To gain any weight they seriously have to stuff themselves to the point of being sick. When I did powerlifting I knew guys like this and it was a struggle for them to not lose weight.
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Congrats on the weight loss, keep at it. Losing weight is not a mystery like some people pretend it is. It is just hard to force yourself to do it.

Yea I'm on that side. I can't pretend it's horrible, but sometimes I wish I could gain more weight, it's not like I don't eat more than 3000 calories a day (really, just healthy calories). I was 126 lbs, 6', 16 years old at the end of the summer last year. Through weight room training at school and at home, i'm now 145 same height and 17 years old. It's a huge accomplishment for me. I want nothing more than to have bigger forearms, wider shoulders etc. Whether you're trying to put on muscle, or lose weight, it's all a matter of willpower. It comes slowly, but as long as you keep at it it's going to happen. I can honestly say after a month or so when i first reached 130, I was frickin estatic. Made it all feel worth it.
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Yea I'm on that side. I can't pretend it's horrible, but sometimes I wish I could gain more weight, it's not like I don't eat more than 3000 calories a day (really, just healthy calories). I was 126 lbs, 6', 16 years old at the end of the summer last year. Through weight room training at school and at home, i'm now 145 same height and 17 years old. It's a huge accomplishment for me. I want nothing more than to have bigger forearms, wider shoulders etc. Whether you're trying to put on muscle, or lose weight, it's all a matter of willpower. It comes slowly, but as long as you keep at it it's going to happen. I can honestly say after a month or so when i first reached 130, I was frickin estatic. Made it all feel worth it.

For you, 3000 calories is probably tough. For me 3000 calories would put me into a deficit and I would probably lose some weight. I take in around 3200-3400 pretty easily, hence I easily maintain my curvy figure

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Do you play on a Mountain? I use the hill profile on an exercise bike, set on level 8 or 9 push it pretty hard and still never get over 150. I am 54, 6' 230.

Pretty darn close. I can get my heart rate around 175-180 if I am killing it on a bike. I am 6'1 203.4, 30. Some of the inclines here are steep. Not many people will walk the courses I do.

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The weight loss will come as long as you stick to it. I started this year at 242, the heaviest I have ever been. Me and four guys threw $100 each in the pot on who could lose the most weight % in three months. This Saturday is our weigh in....and I am currently at 204 lbs. I won't be too upset if I don't win the $500 because it is getting me back into shape, but it won't hurt to ass to the new set of irons!!!
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Hmmm, interesting.
So far we've had posters on here weighing 230, 260, 274, 155, 250, 145, 203, 204...

I guess going to the gym IS important afterall!

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Any conditioning program will work, diet is the key, 70 percent diet, 20 percent working out and the other key 10 percent is proper rest. This is why things like P90X work for people. Get it, the key is the 90 part. If you can stick to 90 days of course you will see results. Most people quit their workout program after 2 weeks because they push themselves too hard to start and they don't see results immediately. Around 60 days you will see improvement but 90 days seems to be when the mirror changes. Now, programs like that stupid Insanity will work for a while but you cannot continue to beat down your body like that you will eventually give it up. Look at the bodybuilders, yes they use roids but they don't kill themselves for long periods in the gym, they hit it hard for short durations, the eat like champions, clean, clean, clean, then sleep so their body can grow.

Oh and lastly, that P90X puke about how they invented a revolutionary technique called "muscle confusion" is a joke. Bodybuilders have known this forever, however their is absolutely no way your body plateaus in 90 days. All changing it up does is keeps the week minded from getting board during this time frame. Didn't you notice P90X, Insanity and the original Beach Body spew is all from the same company. Its all about making great inspiring commercials to sell product.
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Any conditioning program will work, diet is the key, 70 percent diet, 20 percent working out and the other key 10 percent is proper rest. This is why things like P90X work for people. Get it, the key is the 90 part. If you can stick to 90 days of course you will see results. Most people quit their workout program after 2 weeks because they push themselves too hard to start and they don't see results immediately. Around 60 days you will see improvement but 90 days seems to be when the mirror changes.

The idea is to shift your eating habits, then apply workouts as the P90x, I do my own model based upon

www.crossfit.com and as far I lost 5 pounds or so in 3 weeks. Exclude all carbos, that alone will shift your physiology to balance the insuline levels. I am currently aiming for first of June to get my body loosing the extra weight I had since I become ill 10 years ago. I cant work out much but the time I got, I do some I got the energy for. There is no need to not be fit for playing golf, you have a better endurance and will hold up longer.
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Oh and lastly, that P90X puke about how they invented a revolutionary technique called "muscle confusion" is a joke. Bodybuilders have known this forever, however their is absolutely no way your body plateaus in 90 days. All changing it up does is keeps the week minded from getting board during this time frame. Didn't you notice P90X, Insanity and the original Beach Body spew is all from the same company. Its all about making great inspiring commercials to sell product.

First of all, I apologize that basically all my posts are about P90X or fitness, but being that I have only been able to get to the range three times so far this year, this is really the only subject I feel like I can contribute something in.

Anyway, that said, you are correct, muscle confusion or whatever the P90X people call it was not invented by them at all. They're just dumbing it down as simply as possible so people who have never worked out really can understand that variety can really help you see gains. The reality is, people who are out of shape are going to see huge strides in slimming down their body in those first few months of dieting and exercise as long as they are working out with a decent intensity and sort of mixing up what they do. And it doesn't have to be with P90X. But P90X is great for a few things. 1) It teaches people who are totally clueless about fitness how to workout. It shows that you shouldn't be taking super long breaks between sets and that you actually have to bring the intensity consistently to see gains. You can't be mailing it in when you workout and people can easily fall into that over time. 2) It teaches you tons of different specific sets that you can use. For me personally, I simply didn't know all these different moves I could be doing. 3) It puts you on a track with a laid out schedule that you can easily follow and 4) it really stresses eating better and at some sort of healthy calorie deficit. In the end, it's basically a crash course on how to workout- and it's a good one at that. Would a guy who has made fitness and nutrition a major staple of his life already find a whole lot of value in P90X? Probably not, but who really knows. A lot of people need the structure that program provides in order to stay focused. Its basically like having your own personal trainer on DVD. A lot of DVD programs offer this, but P90X is the only one that I really have a whole lot of experience with. I agree that Insanity is pretty risky long term. It's so high impact that more people get hurt doing that program than anything else I've seen promoted on television. However, a lot of people do love it, so I don't want to knock it completely. Personally, I deal with knee issues, so you won't see me attempting that anytime soon. Doing one Plyometric workout a week is more than enough for me at this particular stage. The other big myth about P90X is that you will get ripped in 90 days. This obviously isn't true at all. How long it takes a person to get ripped is predominantly based on where they stand when they start, how motivated they are to eat right and work out regularly, and their genetics. If you took two guys and put them on the exact same diet and exercise program, they almost certainly wouldn't reach the same place physically after 90 days. Some people have to work much harder than others to see the same results. But, everyone can get to where they want to be- some just have to be more patient than others. With P90X, the typical overweight, out of shape male can get ripped after two or three rounds (6 to 9 months). If you are obese, it probably takes somewhere between five to eight rounds (15 to 24 months). So it is a major investment both mentally, physically, and financially. You do have to purchase good equipment and you have to eat healthy foods in the correct amounts. Too little and you are depriving your muscles the ability to grow and repair. Too much and you won't be able to burn off that stubborn last 10 or 20 lbs. of fat surrounding your midsection. It isn't easy, but I guess if it was easy, everyone would be ripped.
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I don't buy muscle confusion. I think you have to stick with a certain set and push yourself hard. Here is an article I find to be interesting about arms and how to get stronger and bigger. Not golf specific but this guy knows alot about working out.

http://www.wannabebig.com/training/b...ps-and-biceps/
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Yea, soon_tourpro is correct that really muscle confusion is just about having so much variety it keeps people interested and happy with what they're doing, but really, what's the harm in that? If you like your workout program, you are way more likely to continue doing it long term.

Ultimately, it's all about continuing to show up and working out at a good intensity. That's really where change comes. And it helps to know a lot of different workouts.
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There is many different ways you can work out,
the body is adaptive, meaning, if you do the same set, the body wont grow as it adapt to that workload.

Now, add varity and intensity and scale it to your fitness level and you get faster results.
Add finesse, use proven stuff as www.crossfit.com or www.artdevany.com and then add a good eating style, and you will be having more energy.

It isnt about working out alone, its insuline levels, hormone release, and also health.
reason?
your balancing out the insuline levels.
No more highs from carbos.
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