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Arms do nothing.

It's a multi-post topic.

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33 minutes ago, iacas said:

Arms do nothing.

It's a multi-post topic.

I saw the tweet earlier. I've been doing some drills this evening trying to feel the arms do less. 

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3 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

I saw the tweet earlier. I've been doing some drills this evening trying to feel the arms do less. 

The shoulders can do more to raise the upper arms up a bit.

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On 6/10/2021 at 9:04 PM, iacas said:

Arms do nothing.

For distance wedge shots, I suspect it is still arms do nothing. Is it more just less turn to control the distance? 

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2 hours ago, saevel25 said:

For distance wedge shots, I suspect it is still arms do nothing. Is it more just less turn to control the distance? 

Yeah

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Played 18 today at the PA/OH/NY Meetup (Deer Ridge GC, OH). In general. Didn't hit many greens. Didn't make any putts. Had 4 blowup holes. 

Driver - For the most part decent, though I got in a 3 hole stretch were I would just block the shot 30 yards right. On the back nine I started to just decide to try to swing low left. This helped out for the most part. 

Irons - Not that solid. Just couldn't hit many greens. Shots still feel like I have no room to swing down with my arms. Things just feel stuck. 

Short game - Pretty decent

Putting - Never made anything outside of 5-Ft

 

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Some drive range work. 

1) Need to keep swing shorter
2) Need to figure out timing of squat and left side extension stuff. Right now, when I try to squat, I feel like I don't turn and I fat it. When I try to squat less, or extend a bit sooner, then I just get stuck with my weight back. I think I need to do right side crunch more, and right side through more to keep things turning forward. Then extend. 

This is just an initial swing. Maybe not warmed up as I need to be. Some days turning just feels like a bother. 

This swing is trying to keep it shorter. Also, more right side through feel. 

Yea, here is the driver... I hate this club. So tough to keep it shorter...

Here is the shot that has been bugging me a bit. I feel like I hit a good shot, but it just turns into a big push cut. More cut than push. This was also trying to feel like my arms do nothing at all. 

Another, driver swing where I just feel like my arms do nothing at all. 

 

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Wider arms, higher elbow. From FO your right elbow should be visible longer.

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Here’s the deal Matt. And I speak from experience at both sides of this.

You have to determine how much you want it, and then MAKE yourself swing the right speed back so you can MAKE yourself swing the right length.

Practicing long swings just ingrains it more.

You’re not warming up. You’re practicing. The best drill is doing it right.

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One thing that might help for not using the arms is the swing jacket...It Literally doesn't allow you to swing your arms.  

It did work but I have so many other problems I stopped using it.

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41 minutes ago, MattM said:

One thing that might help for not using the arms is the swing jacket...It Literally doesn't allow you to swing your arms.  

It did work but I have so many other problems I stopped using it.

I appreciated the idea, but I don't think I will be doing that. 

For me, taking the arms out causes my right elbow to stay to close to my body, and the hands start to just go deep. 

2 hours ago, iacas said:

Here’s the deal Matt. And I speak from experience at both sides of this.

You have to determine how much you want it, and then MAKE yourself swing the right speed back so you can MAKE yourself swing the right length.

Practicing long swings just ingrains it more.

You’re not warming up. You’re practicing. The best drill is doing it right.

I agree

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I wonder if using a notebook or journal to track my practice would help keep me focused on the process more. 

Something like.

Practice Swing Goal/Swing Speed/Achieved Priority Grade

"Backswing Piece / 80% / B+ Result"

 

 

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57 minutes ago, saevel25 said:

I wonder if using a notebook or journal to track my practice would help keep me focused on the process more. 

Something like.

Practice Swing Goal/Swing Speed/Achieved Priority Grade

"Backswing Piece / 80% / B+ Result"

 

 

Like a Game Golf for your practice! I love it dude. 

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Can’t hurt. Just keep it constructive.

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slower swing speed practice. This felt like 70%.

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Later ones are a bit better. Not laid off at the top. Still some back of the hand facing horizontal stuff.

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Some backswing work today. Trying to stop the backswing shorter and keep the back of the left hand facing away more.

 

 

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