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LMAO!! Just wiping tears from my eyes...

I think Titleist KNOW which of THEIR balls performs more spin than any magazine one off review, to argue this fact is both pointless & quite honestly naive.

Im no professional golfer but at your handicap I doubt very much you have the authority or experience to tell us/companies/golfing universe we are wrong & you are right....

If you get spin your way then congrats keep it up, but just because you head pro says you practice more than everyone else at your club doesnt make you an expert.

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I find that interesting. I can spin the ball like so without coming down on it, or leaning forward. Just a smooth solid hit right on the sweet spot with no debris is really IMHO all you need for backspin, other than the equipment (wedge, ball, grooves) ect. I have tested the hitting down on the ball method because I looked up many tips from golf coaches and that is what they all say for more spin. I have tried and tried this method, I still find my spin comes from even a brush and no divot in the ground. The ball maintains its low, solid flight path. I know immediatly how the ball will react on the green by the feel of contact when the ball strikes the wedge and the flight path. Maybe it is because I am smaller and have a slower swing speed? I don't know but that is my perception of it.

Hitting down on the ball squeezes the ball against the grooves imparting max friction so you get more spin.

Hitting down on the ball will give more spin. Fact.

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This whole thread is hilarious. First, you have an 11 handicap telling you how to spin it. You know how you spin a ball? You hit down, and strike it solid, end of story. Any decent urethane ball will stop for you. Grooves don't make much difference unless you're in the rough. My Sand Wedge's grooves are worn out, but it still spins just fine out of a clean lie. As long as you strike it right in the guts, it'll spin.

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This whole thread is hilarious. First, you have an 11 handicap telling you how to spin it. You know how you spin a ball? You hit down, and strike it solid, end of story. Any decent urethane ball will stop for you. Grooves don't make much difference unless you're in the rough. My Sand Wedge's grooves are worn out, but it still spins just fine out of a clean lie. As long as you strike it right in the guts, it'll spin.

Maybe it's the spring greens, but my Wilson Eco Core stops on a dime - even when I wanted it to release : (

Mizuno MP600 driver, Cleveland '09 Launcher 3-wood, Callaway FTiz 18 degree hybrid, Cleveland TA1 3-9, Scratch SS8620 47, 53, 58, Cleveland Classic 2 mid-mallet, Bridgestone B330S, Sun Mountain four5.


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Just cause the subject of this thread reminded me. I saw Harrington on playing lessons with the pros once. He had a nice easy recommendation I liked. He said when he wants a lot of spin, really trying to get the ball to stop, he sets up with his weight well forward and keeps it there during his whole swing. Basically a route to the increased steepness others have mentioned is what you want.

Weight forward shallows out the swing.

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Backspinsalot, just curious if your 11 hcp is from having to rack up all those additional strokes from having to putt and chip all those approach shots you spin back off the green.

Without all that expception spin from your non-forged forged wedges you may even be a single digit.
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Next, you need a good wedge, I find the Titleist Vokey spin milled wedges spin the best and have the best feel. Other companies are not far from the Vokey's at all though so you don't need to buy a Vokey. I have spun the Nike's very well, Taylor mades, Clevelands...

Too bad Cleveland, Vokey, and TaylorMade wedges are not forged. If you really need a forged wedge, you are stuck with either Callaway's X-Forged, or Nike's VR wedges.


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Or Mizuno. Those are forged, and they are very good wedges.

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Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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Or Mizuno. Those are forged, and they are very good wedges.

ARe you guys sipping the bubbly a bit early this evening?

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ARe you guys sipping the bubbly a bit early this evening?

Didn't Srixon discontinue their wedges? And the modern Wilson flagship wedges, the TW-9, as far as I know, are not forged.


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Didn't Srixon discontinue their wedges? And the modern Wilson flagship wedges, the TW-9, as far as I know, are not forged.

The forged wedges I've seen are old probably old stock then.

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He said when he wants a lot of spin, really trying to get the ball to stop, he sets up with his weight well forward and keeps it there during his whole swing. Basically a route to the increased steepness others have mentioned is what you want. He was doing it to an extreme that he almost got that action where you hit so steep that your club basically stops right after you hit the ball.

Weight forward shallows out the swing.

Just had to correct myself here, I misunderstood the concept. Putting more weight forward, and keeping it there, ie. not pushing the hips forward, will steepen the angle of descent. If the body shifts more weight forward and push the hips forward through the downswing, the angle of descent will be more shallow. If you keep the weight forward without moving it, the angle you set up at will stay the same. It is only by moving the weight forward through the swing, that you shallow out the angle of descent. The reason being that you get a secondary axis tilt when the lower body move ahead of the upper body, upper body tilting away from the target.

Thanks to Erik for pointing it out for me.

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The more answers I find about golf just lead to new questions.

 

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I see nothing wrong with the OP's post.  Basic info that some might find useful.

The biggest complaint was that a Pro V1x spins more than a Pro V1, or visa versa.

His spin technique probably indicates he's a picker rather than a big divot taker.  I happen to take beaver pelts.

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