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I've been struggling with alignment, could anybody tell me how to effectively use alignement sticks and wehre to buy them from? thanks!

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Have you already tried laying down another club? That is what I do, and it's free : )

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point the stick where you want the ball to go, line your feet up with it, and swing, engrave it in your mind how it feels and looks to be lined up correctly. then take it away line up yourself, lay your club down ( or the stick or whatever) to see if you aligned right. Doing this regularly engraves good alignment. and i just use an old driver shaft pullout for mine.

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Yea, but I would rather hit a stick than hit and mess up a club...

You don't put it right next to your ball...you shouldnt hit the club or you will need more help than an alignment stick can give haha.


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Alignment sticks can be used near the ball. You lay it above the ball to stop coming over the top.

Lowes and Home Depot have orange glow sticks that work great.


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Alignment sticks can be used near the ball. You lay it above the ball to stop coming over the top.

well now you aren't using it for alignment, so that is a totally different point haha j/k I see what you are saying.


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I got mine at OSH. They're markers for driveway entrances, found in the section with mailboxes, "for sale" signs, etc. $2.50 each I believe. Because they're intended to use as stakes in the ground, they're sharpened at one end and I also like to stick one in the ground to use as a chipping target when both of the flags on the chipping green are in use.

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Around here, any hardware store will have fiberglass snow sticks, which you use to mark the edges of your driveway so the plow guy doesn't scalp your lawn. I imagine there might be slightly less call for these in South Carolina, though.

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Go get some dowels from a hardware store. get 3 of them or so. Then you can lay one inbetween your feet and the ball, i like this position for alignment. I also like to set two of them up in the ground, angled away from you, about 5 yards infront of you. You hit the ball through this gate you created, and it gives you reference with your eyes of what it looks like to look down the target line from the side of the ball and you can see if your ball starts off on the right trajectory.

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A string wrapped around a couple of tees will work for your "down the line" alignment aid and then a couple of clubs to check your feet and see if you're square and perpendicular

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I bought two at a pro shop for less than 8 dollars.  Here is what I have used them for in the last 4 months:

1.  Putting path...just inside and in front of the ball to encourage my clubhead to not cross over...ie down the line

2.  Swing path reminder...behind, in front, or to either side of the ball...or both sticks on either side to make a lane

3.  Alignment...on the heels

4.  T-Station...one stick shows path, the other shows ball position

5.  Hip reminder...to avoid hitting the stick the hips turn more and slide less

6.  Ball Target...put a stick 10 feet out...start the ball over the stick to the right or left to create draws and fades

7.  Bag Accessories...to look like a poser

There are so many ways to use them.  Hopefully this gives you a couple of ideas.

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Try going to a sporting goods store and buying a set (4) of the fiberglass poles used in cheap dome tents.  I think the set I have cost less than $10.

You can also go to a home store and buy water pipe insulation sticks which are made out of foam rubber and are about 1 1/4 inch in diameter and won't hurt your club if you hit it.  I think they come in 3 or 4 foot lengths and are very cheap.

I also posted pictures in my profile of two training aids I saw advertised and made them myself for a lot less than MSRP.  Cheap is good. :-)


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Dicks Sporting Goods had a clearance sale on TaylorMade alignment sticks, set of 3 for $10.

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They didn't have driveway markers at my Home Depot  - I guess it's a cold-climate thing.  I found some garden stakes for a couple bucks each that work perfectly, though.  I kinda wish they weren't green - but they work just fine.


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Dowel rods?

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