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My score is so inconsistent. During the good day, i can score as low as 85, but during the bad day.... 100.

Is this normal for everyone? It seems like a wild swing.

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My score is so inconsistent. During the good day, i can score as low as 85, but during the bad day.... 100.

As your handicap gets lower, your scores become more clustered. It's not abnormal at all. Even me, hell, I shot a 107 earlier this year. Of course, I was playing on a badly hurt knee, and in constant pain, but still... 107?


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I have my roller coaster scores in the same round. For example, on Monday I went Triple, double, double, double, double on the first 5 holes. I ended up 15 over.

I think it's normal. My last 20 (last 2 months) scores range from 84 to 97.

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Driver: 907d2
Fairway: R7 ti 5-Wood
Hybrids: 909H 21 Rescue 4Irons: KZG Forged Evolution 5 - PW w/Rifle 6.0 shaftWedges: 52 Rac & Vokey 58Putter: Studio Select 2Ball: Titleist ProV1xEyes: SG5


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It's normal for me, I shot an 88 on Saturday and turned around and shot a 101 on Monday.

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My score is so inconsistent. During the good day, i can score as low as 85, but during the bad day.... 100.

On your bad days what are you struggling with? I would indentify and work on that part of your game. For example, when I struggle with scores its mainly because my driver is getting me into trouble.

The only thing a golfer needs is more daylight. -Ben Hogan

 

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My game is a "box of chocolates"..... I shoot anywheres from 77-85 I usually sneak in a few low 70's and a few high 80's during the year.

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Personally, as my short game has gotten better my scores have become more consistent. Still, I range generally between 42-48 most 9 hole rounds, which is a pretty similar range to yours.
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I'm pretty consistent around 12-13 over.

I used to be really streaky before, I'd have a run of good scores then a load of bad ones.

My Clubs
Driver - LV4 10* R flex
Wood - sam snead persimmon 2 wood (for windy days)
Hybrid burner tour launch 20* stiff flex.
Irons - Tour Mode 3i,4i stiffIrons - FP's 5-PW R-flexWedge - spin milled 54.14Wedge - spin milled 60.07Putter - Victoria Lowest round 2010: 79 (par 70)Latest rounds at...


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Unfortunately too normal for me. I can go from low 80's to 100 in a heart beat.

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In retrospect when I have bad rounds it's usually because I go for the glory stroke when I should be playing safe...State of mind.

A) You need to hit alot of different clubs.
B) Whatever works for you.
C) It's the indian, not the arrow.
D) A 5 wood, 19* hybrid or a lob wedge.


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When playing with the senior men (I'm almost one myself!), it seems the guys with the tightest score clusters are the ones with good short games.

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In retrospect when I have bad rounds it's usually because I go for the glory stroke when I should be playing safe...State of mind.

I did that first time I played Disney's Palm after watching Big Break Disney Golf. I went for every crazy shot they hit on that course, and tried to pull them off! Shot 94 in the end. That's why you don't go after the hero shot every time... But I

almost cleared the damn trees on 17!

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I will shoot from 75 to 82 so a difference of 7 strokes. Its all short game, most of us focus too much on ball stricking and fairways and greens hits, I truly believe at the end of the day, its all putting and short game.

Do you keep records of your putts and up and down percentage? I played today and found a different swing that I can not wait to try next time I am out with my irons, fairway wood and driver.

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That's totally normal. I've gone from 74 to 90 in the same week. There are a lot of things involved, some luck, how you're swinging that day..

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i realize when i play bad, it is usually my driver misbehave and get me into all kinds of troubles. On top of that, certain day i just have the feel when coming to putting and certain day, the ball will go 6 feet short or 6 feet over.

How to improve the driving accuracy and the feel when come to putting?

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When playing with the senior men (I'm almost one myself!), it seems the guys with the tightest score clusters are the ones with good short games.

to me the people with the tighest score clusters are the best ball strikers. Bad ballstriking days and penalty strokes are what get me, My shortgame has always been my strength but until my long game got better I had huge variations in my score.

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I am incrediably streaky. I'll shoot in the 80s for a few rounds, and then turn around and shoot around 100 for a few rounds. What I've found is that there is one or two things that are causing me to shoot high scores. Typically if I shoot a higher than average score for me, it is attributed to too many 2 and 3 putts; and/or getting in to trouble off the tee.

As my game has evolved and as I've improved, I find my scores aren't erratic due to a few "blow up holes" like I use to have. I seem to shoot pretty consistantly over a round. I'm either playing an entire round at bogey golf, double bogey golf, etc. So...my scoring for the day comes down to putting and tee shots. If I'm not feeling my putter that day, I may 2 and 3 putt every hole and play double bogey + golf.

What I Play:

Driver: R9 460
4 Wood: G15

Hy: Callaway FT 3Hy

Irons: AP1 4-PW

Wedges: Vokey 52* & 60*, Mizuno MP-T 10 58*

Putter: Newport Studio Select 2.7

Ball: Nike One Vapor


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We are in the same boat, Thwak. My scores range from 88 -103. However, in the last two weeks, my game has been more consistantly around 90.

A month ago, I started tracking my scores with the Scorecard software. It didn't take very long to see that I was blowing a bunch of chances to get "up and down". So, I'm really focused on my short game now. Before using the score tracking, I would have continued my range sessions with "balanced" time of full swing vs. short game. Now, I have doubled the short game time by really adding chipping practice every time.

Glad to know there are more people on the USS Inconsistent than I thought.

In my bag:

One for slicing
One for hooking
One for knocking it in the cup


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