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I am a 13 HDCP or so right now, currently running TM RAC OS2's. They are pretty clunky and thick, lof of offset. I want something less beginner. Can somone summarize what the differences are in the MP 58, 68, 52 and 62?
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http://golf.mizunoeurope.com/irons/
check out the specs.

http://www.ralphmaltby.com/system/as...MPF_Update.pdf

Scroll down to the Mizuno section and look at which one is easiest/hardest to hit.
It only compares the MP58's and MP68's but I think they might be a bit hard to hit.

Mp 52 hasn't got much offset but it has the biggest head & sole width.
I'd say go for that one if you want mizuno clubs

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I am a 13 HDCP or so right now, currently running TM RAC OS2's. They are pretty clunky and thick, lof of offset. I want something less beginner. Can somone summarize what the differences are in the MP 58, 68, 52 and 62?

Strange not to read the word "please" somewhere in your post.

Are you expecting someone to write an essay for you when all you have to do is go to the Mizuno website or read the millions of posts about these clubs in dozens of golf forums?

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Strange not to read the word "please" somewhere in your post.

Are you serious????

Who cares. Back to the topic.... I would go for my MP 52s

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Strange not to read the word "please" somewhere in your post.

Please don't reply again...better? If I wanted to opinions of lesser forum I would have read those and called it a day. But since I know this forum has experienced people, this is the best place to ask my question.

To those of you who left actual feedback and information thank you.
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guys can we get back on topic?

What are you looking for?
Loads of workability or are you looking for a bit of forgiveness too?

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Driver - LV4 10* R flex
Wood - sam snead persimmon 2 wood (for windy days)
Hybrid burner tour launch 20* stiff flex.
Irons - Tour Mode 3i,4i stiffIrons - FP's 5-PW R-flexWedge - spin milled 54.14Wedge - spin milled 60.07Putter - Victoria Lowest round 2010: 79 (par 70)Latest rounds at...


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guys can we get back on topic?

Well I don't think I need "loads" of workability. Basically I have had the clubs I have now for 6 seasons or so. They are fairly clunky, thick top line etc. They also seem to be fairly heavy in the head compared to some thinner/smaller clubheads I pick up in the store. Time for new irons as I think my skill level has outgrown them. I am leaning toward Mizuno's since everyone I know who has them seems to love them. Since I don't get to play as often as I like, a little bit of forgiveness would not hurt.

Another thing I notice in the specs is that each club is about 2 degrees weaker than the ones I have now, meaning they have 2 degrees more of loft each. Is this going to affect my distance dramatically, or will the lower ball flight even that out?
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Time for new irons as I think my skill level has outgrown them.

That is a big no bob. Your skill level hasn't outgrown them. If you want to get new clubs to get new clubs, just do so.


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That is a big no bob. Your skill level hasn't outgrown them. If you want to get new clubs to get new clubs, just do so.

Point taken, and yes part of me wants new clubs just to get new clubs. Chances are any touring pro would do just fine with the ones I have...

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My personal recommendation would be for a set of MP57s. They are (in my opinion) as good as anything equivalent in the current line and, because they no longer are in the current line, you can find them quite cheaply if you look around online.

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I'll second the vote for MP-57, I may be biased though
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Well I don't think I need "loads" of workability. Basically I have had the clubs I have now for 6 seasons or so. They are fairly clunky, thick top line etc. They also seem to be fairly heavy in the head compared to some thinner/smaller clubheads I pick up in the store. Time for new irons as I think my skill level has outgrown them. I am leaning toward Mizuno's since everyone I know who has them seems to love them. Since I don't get to play as often as I like, a little bit of forgiveness would not hurt.

All I can tell you about Mizuno irons is the best forgings were done in the 90s. Did I just pull that statistic out of thin air? Yes I did.

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I hit the whole lineup of the game enhancement irons at a fitting. Feel wise they are all a bit similar, off center hits on all of them were about the same, though the 58 were by far the most forgiving. I think it's more of a confidence factor. In the end I went with the 68's because I loved the feeling and the look and the turf interaction. I've only ever played blades so I feel comfortable with them.

More importantly I would go to a mizuno fitting, their shaft optimizer works! The fitter had me try 3 different shafts recommended by the optimizer and I hit them using the mp 58 head, I couldn't believe the difference in ball flight and control using the same head, lie angle and club length. If you're going to invest in a set of any of these it's well worth your while to seek one of their fittings out and book some time. I believe their customization has to be one of the best out there with regards to custom shaft availability. I was a Hogan guy, but I'm a convert these are some of the softest sweetest clubs I've ever hit.

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I'll second the vote for MP-57, I may be biased though

I'll third that recommendation....with the same bias!!

I will say though, i have a hell of a time hitting the 4 and 5 iron when my swing is just a bit off. I just bought a couple of older MX-25's to combat that issue as they are much more forgiving and the lofts are pretty much in tune with the 57's.....and they have the same sweet forged feel.

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19* and 22* Rescue Hybrids
4-PW MP 57 Irons
CG14 52* Gap Wedge CG12 56* SW CG12 60* Lob Wedge CO3-hI push them around with my Linksmen X-7 cart.


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May depend if your iron play is a strength or weakness in your game. If the latter I'd look at the mx-200 or 300.

You're still getting Mizunos but these two options seem to be more forgiving than the others mentioned above.

I recently hit the mx-200 and they're nice, when struck flush, but for now I still need my X-20s. That and the cost issue....

Cool mizuno fitting system, too, but you are probably aware of that.

TW

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Let me throw in a vote for the MX-200s. I realize that they are perceived as a game-improvement iron, and they are certainly among the more GI Mizuno irons. That being said, I think they are fantastic-wonderful forged feel, forgiving, and still workable. The short irons are not big oversized shovels, and the long irons are tremendously easy to hit. Honestly, I've become nearly as confident with the MX-200 4 iron as I have traditionally been with a 6 or 7 iron. My ballstriking has been increasingly solid over the last year, and I don't feel I give up any workability with these as compared to my Titleist Tour Model Forged blades, or the MacGregor MT Pro-Ms I played last summer.

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