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What are some basics that everyone should know/do?
My putting is atrocious and i feel i'm missing some basic concepts

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1) Adjust for distance by altering your backswing-keep your follow-through relatively similar for all putts.
2) Goes along with point 1, accelerate through the putt, regardless of the distance. Don't want any deceleration in your putts (or any of your golf shots).

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1) learn to control your distances to eliminate three putting
2) learn to hit a straight putt from a 3 foot circle
3) lag your long putt within a 3 foot circle
4) look at the putt from three angles, behind the ball and hole, hole and the ball and finally the low side of your putt.
5) remember that distance control is more important than direction
6) practice and practice until you gain confidence that you can make every putt
7) count your putts per hole on the front, back nine and total putts per round.
8) learn to make a perfect stroke
9) basic fundamental are posture, grip, distance from the ball, shoulder movement vs hands
10) keep your movement one piece and do not break your wrist while putting
11) I personally think it help to keep the putter low on the backswing to make consistent solid contact with the ball.
12) work on the short game around the green to help you make more one putts.
13) try to keep your putts below 30 per round, the pros with their great short game have as low as 23 putts per round.

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Putter face Squared to target line at impact...keep the wrists out of your stroke.

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One of the biggest things that has helped me is taking the wrists out of the stroke. The shoulders should be making most of the stroke, big muscles are more stable than small ones and that creates less room for error. Not exactly where I want to be, but my putting average in my last ten rounds is 1.87 per hole and 2.05 per GIR....not bad for a guy who used to average 5-6 3 putts per round. I am not a pro here but I am just telling you what has helped me out.

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AS many people there are, there as many putting strokes...

My message to you, get out on the putting green and figure it out. Some putters become better by a teacher, others have thought themselves, but you will never learn speed control unless you go out and putt alot.

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There's so much to cover, but my main putting basics are as follows. Surprisingly (or maybe not) many are identical to thoughts you can use for a full swing:

1.) Accelerate through the ball no longer how long (or short) the putt - your backswing and follow through should be of similar length.
2.) Keep your head (and eyes) steady & down - listen for the ball falling in the cup, don't watch it go in
3.) Aim at a point 3 or 4 feet ahead of the ball on point along your intended line - this helps to ensure proper alignment
4.) When dealing with up or down hill putts, pick a point a reasonable distance in front of (for downhill) or behind (for uphill) the hole. Ignore the hole and focus on putting to those points with a normal pace (i.e., don't even think about the slope). Let the green do the work to keep the ball rolling or slowing down the ball as necessary.

When all else fails in a round, forget the mechanics and just feel the ball into the hole like you did in mini golf when you were a kid. It might not be the most consistent way to putt over the long term but this can sometimes be a nice short term fix to clear your head and be more natural with your stroke.

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There are an infinate amount of ways to putt effectively. There really isnt a wrong way to putt. But two keys that seem to be common is getting your head over (maybe even over and behind) the target line, and face angle. Getting the face aimed properly. I use an aid to align the face when i practice putting. I think its the one that pelz endorses. Very simple device. I also use steel golf balls to help me get the feel of accelerating through the stroke as an aid. Alot of bad putters stop the stroke at the ball and then flip the head through with the wrists. Some good putters have putted well doing that, but most of us cant. Its good to keep everything together, if possible.

As far as speed and green reading...i really dont think there is a formula to learn that. Its something you have to learn yourself through trial and error.
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One thought I always have is to keep still through the stroke and let the shoulders rock without any influence of the hips and head. This is especially important to me with shorter putts. With 6 footers I actually loose sight of the ball as I keep still waiting to hear the putt as opposed to seeing it.

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I recommend you read "The Art of Putting" by Stan Utley. Look for The Putting Zone podcast by Geoff Magnum, it has a lot of very interesting information; also, look for Dave Stockton in youtube. These may be the best authors in regards to putting.

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Got another putter question since we're on the topic. I am currently using an Odyssey White Hot Tour Blade style putter.
I have heard conflicting tips on the backswing.

Assuming I use all shoulders and no wrist.......
Should I keep my back elbow tucked in? Essential making an arc with my stroke ?
Or move my back elbow away from my torso which will allow the putter to move straight back and through the ball ?

Also does the type of putter matter (i.e.) Blade vs Mallet and the type of stroke you should use ?

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Got another putter question since we're on the topic. I am currently using an Odyssey White Hot Tour Blade style putter.

You've got to match your stroke type to your natural stance. Neither is more correct than the other, it comes down to whatever you find the most comfortable.

More upright would be better served with a pendulum type stroke (high hands). More hunched over would work better with a more linear (back and through, low hands) swing. Blade, mallet, etc. is totally personal preference. Go with what looks and feels best to you, just try to match the length and lie angle to your preferred stance. Putting is definitely a case where the actual equipment doesn't matter as much as your comfort and confidence.

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What are some basics that everyone should know/do?

Simple fact, You need to spend more time on the putting green..... Do this and you won't ever question your putting again, most people spend too much time on the range with driver and long irons as these are the hardest for most to control, Yet you can't score with them


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you got to go figure it out yourself.

I play golf with a guy who is over the line a ton, but he trips his putter down below the grip on the metal shaft with his right hand. Another uses an old bull's eye putter and is wristy.

My personal putting stroke is very neutral,
ball position is the emblem on the left part of the shirt, so about 2 balls lengths from the front foot. I concentrate on just using all shoulders, equal speed back and through. My grip is the same for putting as i use for hitting all other shots, overlap grip.

I use to extend my right index finger down the shaft, but i changed that when i kept pushing my putts. I aim to the ball like i do all other shots, come in from behind, line up my putter to the line i want, then take my stance.

But i think what helps alot is the routine. I have a set routine to were i go from standing behind the ball to getting set up, to putting, its consistant.

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Wanna be a good putter ........ "practice 3 footers ". Most amateurs putt fairly well until they get 3-4 feet from the cup.

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Alot of great advice so far. The only other thing I would add is routine, routine, routine! Having a pre-shot routine is always recommended in golf. Personally, I don't have one that is always exactly the same. But I do for putting. I have a very strict routine that I follow for putting.

Then again....I'm not the greatest putter, so my advice should be taken with a grain of salt.

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The 2 most important things for me are practicing 3-5 ft putts with no break at all. This shows that the ball is going exactly where you intend. If the ball misses it is down to your stroke, not a mis-read.
Secondly, practice your long lag putts, focus on the pace rather than the line. Get these putts to within 3 feet and you will rarely 3 putt. I practice these but it is still a weak part of my game.
Breaking the wrists is a big no-no, also, try to keep your right fore arm straight in relation to the putter shaft (as if your arm is just an extension of the shaft)
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