who do you like in this bet?

[doublesuited77]

Here's the proposition. Some of you may know that I am friends with a regular on the PGA tour. (not a star but consistently in the top 100 in $$ every year). I'll be visiting him in a few months and we've been discussion a potential bet.


Here is the bet. Stroke play Pro vs Me with the following conditions.

- Played from the tips at Grayhawk in Scottsdale where they host a PGA event. (would play about 7400 yards)
- Pro plays his own ball but can lift, clean and place in the fairway.
- I (a 3 handicap) play a 4-man scramble with myself. (e.g. I get four attempts at every shot).

Who do you think has the edge here?

[kpaulhus]

Thats crazy. Im pretty drunk, nbut I thimk u got this one.

[ajschn06]

You don't stand a chance...

[Shindig]

Who do you think has the edge here?

He has the advantage. Consider the full shots; he will hit approx. 36 during that round. You will hit at least 150. Unless you've got some major endurance, he won't be tired for the back twelve.

[CG031]

Who's the player and I'll be able to tell ya? hahahahah jk

But really I'm takin the tour pro all day sorry my man

[doublesuited77]

i don't disagree with any of you. My take-- he has the edge, but I have a chance. (probably about 10% if my putter is on fire). I think if i could play up a couple set of tees, I would have a slight edge. Biggest issue for me that I would basically be giving up a shot on each of the par 5s since I cant hit in two and he probably could (at least three of them). Plus some of the longer par 4, i'd be hitting hybrid and he'd be hitting 7 or 8.

The biggest edge for me would be putting (which is my strength anyway). I have to think i would make nearly everything inside 20 feet with four looks at it.

[doublesuited77]

He has the advantage. Consider the full shots; he will hit approx. 36 during that round. You will hit at least 150. Unless you've got some major endurance, he won't be tired for the back twelve.

I probably wont take four swings at every ball, especially off the tee. If i hit a drive 280 in the fairway, i'll stop because i know i won't be doing much better.

[BallStriker]

If you play to sub-3 on legitimate length courses, I think you have a decent shot......even if you can't reach any par 5 in reg, I have to think you will make at least 3 birdies with 4 chances with the wedge and 4 putts.....even on the longer par 4s, you have four approaches, four chips/pitches if you miss the green and four putts at a scrambling par.....I have to think you can get it under par....you may not get it low enough, but you have a chance (I think you have to expect a solid, sub-par round out of your opponent with lift/clean)....please keep us informed, this is pretty good stuff....

[Stretch]

Since you're at Grayhawk, just ask him if you can take Stan out with you to play your ball from 60 and in.

[steelernation]

You have a better than 75% chance of winning. The problem lies in whether the tips have any 260 yard hazard carries. Consider this, just because he is a pro doesnt mean he can triple bogey a hole, granted odds are against it. With your HI there is no way possible you will have to hit from a fairway bunker, from behind a tree, take a penalty stroke. You get 4 approach shots from 170-180 on par 4's some closer so you will always be GIR with some as close as 12 feet and closer. Im an 18HI and with 4 tries at a 12 footer, think Im gonna sink 1 of them. You wont have a problem and like you said when you hit a drive 280 youll quit for that hole, that will save you from 20 swings, its all gonna come down to your putting, you dont need endurance to putt.


LAST big odds changer is CART or Walking. If its walking i say it becomes 50/50.

[mcfc_nick]

i say go for it, is there anywhere that i can put money on you :)

[holeinon3]

First of all, Grayhawk is a pretty dang hard course and I guarantee it's even harder from the tips. But I think you do actually have a chance, think of all the times you miss a putt then re-hit it and nail it center cup. That 2nd guy is always better, kick his butt!

[James_Black]

4 shots at a 10 footer, you've got a good chance at sinking it.

the only problem as said before would be endurance.
If it was 9 holes you'd hammer him but I don't think you'll be able to keep it up.

[holeinon3]

Can you tell us the name? If I guess it will you tell me if I'm right?

Tim Clark?

Aaron Baddeley?

[jamo]

I didn't even think about endurance, but I don't know how much that would cost you. When you go to the range you already hit 100 balls maybe, and it's not like you are doing a ton of extra walking compared to a normal round.

[sean_miller]

Here's the proposition. Some of you may know that I am friends with a regular on the PGA tour. (not a star but consistently in the top 100 in $$ every year). I'll be visiting him in a few months and we've been discussion a potential bet.

I don't know you well enough to say. With free money, I'll put it on the pro.

[lsuwjk]

The pro...not by much though

[colin007]

great bet! i say go for it, i would put it 60/40 in favor of the pro.