Most overrated shots that always get talked about

[zeg]

Soooo......am I the person on THE PLANET who remembers his next shot????? He missed the putt and birdied 13, everyone birdies 13!!! I think the reason why that shot got so much hype is because he went for the shot and took it on

Sure, but when I was watching and saw him land in the trees, it sure looked like his meltdown was going to begin.

I've seen a few people complaining that it was "lucky" rather than "great." IMO there's not much difference. Every great shot has a huge element of luck. Yes, these guys can hit amazingly small targets, but quite often the difference between a great shot that'll be talked about for years and a mere shot of the day is far smaller than the control even the most precise golfer has. In the end, it's a matter of getting a good bounce when the situation is such that it'll be memorable. Also re: Phil's shot, part of the magic is that it was in the run of nearly 3 consecutive eagles, IIRC, including a hole out from the fairway. I'm also not trying to argue that this particular shot is a greatest shot ever hit---it amazed me at the time, but I have to confess I don't really understand the layout of the hole to even know where he was aiming relative to the shots from behind as he strikes. What made it a memorable shot for me (besides standing to win a free Callaway driver if he won) was the emotional roller coaster of pulling that shot out after it looked like he had a crap lie stymied by a tree. Regardless of how truly difficult the shot was, that part of it is hard to shake.

[dunstert]

Tiger's 2nd shot on 18 at Pebble this year was pretty sweet...

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[zeg]

Yeah, that TW shot was great. Even better from where I was sitting in the bleachers!!

[chef35ca]

I find it just amazing at all the people here who are experts on how to hit a 200 yard shot, over water, off pine straw, in the last round of a major championship. How many of you have even tried a full shot off pine straw? If you had, you would know that anything can happen, given the lie and the stance issues.

Oh yeah. Easy shot. I could hit that with an 8 iron. Blindfolded. Left handed with the toe down. Nothing to it.

Actually, i thought it was a pretty cool shot. But i'm a high handicap & obviously have no idea what i'm talking about.

[chef35ca]

Can someone post a shot that IS amazing or great then?

Right here.

[CPT]

Right here.

And I thought Tour Pros don't have a lot of free time.

[laconic517]

Tiger hit an awesome sliced 3 or 5 wood around a dogleg I believe in one of the PGA's that was nicer than that shot on 18 at the US open.

I can never seem to find the video of it. It was on a year end top 5 or 10 list of his shots before.

edit:

found it, was from the US open in 2003

[JWL1957]

Another ridiculous thread. What is the point? Are you trying to denigrate the achievements of great players or is it just to make believe that the average punter is really just as good as Phil Mickelson because the shot at 13 at Augusta wasn't hit through three feet of concrete onto a granite topped green? It certainly doesn't make anyone appear knowledeable by sagely commenting on how, for example, Nicklaus' 1 iron that hit the flag wasn't really great because the loft was closer to today's 2 irons. That's the stupid level we seem to be at here.

Your so right.

[boogielicious]

It's curious that a lot the shots we consider "great" are due to the circumstance that forced them to take the shot. They're from bad lies or locations or very high risk shots. Sometimes it's because the previous shot was lousy and now there in the woods or on a cart path (Mickelson with a 3-wood on asphalt comes to mind). Or because the bogeyed the previous hole which put them behind and forced them into a high risk shot.

It's the same in every sport. Circumstance dictates importance.

[DavidFehertysBike]

I always liked this shot from Phil. I like to rate the shots based on what % of pros would actually have attempted the shot. I think most of the pros (assuming left-handed like Phil) would have attempted the shot at 13. I don't think the same could be said for this one, which could have cost him the tournament:

Now that was a gangsta ass shot.

[whatwhatwhat]

You're talking about Phil, right? Chilli Dipper was talking about Tiger.

Yeah quoted the wrong person, sorry chilli

[chriskzoo]

Your so right.

I think a "great" shot has to have some element of difficulty to it - be it the club that the player is using (e.g. Jack's 1-iron), a difficult lie, holing out when it's absolutely needed or unlikely (e.g. Leonard at the Ryder Cup or Hale Irwins putt at the US Open on #18, Watson's chip-in at Pebble, etc.), or having to take some ludicrous line to the hole like Tiger's filty draw to 10 feet on #9 at Augusta this year.

Mickelson's shot looked difficult, but in reality it was not much more difficult than if he was in the middle of the fairway on that day with a 6-iron in his hands. If he stuffed a 6-iron from the fairway and missed that putt (as he did) nobody would even talk about it.

[chriskzoo]

Now that was a gangsta ass shot.

Yep, or that one, was it at Bethpage, where Phil was left and probably should have chipped out to the fairway, but instead hit it through a hole the size of a towel to about 6 feet (missed the putt of course, as I remember).

[colin007]

what about tiger at the 2002 PGA at hazeltine, out of the bunker (i think i have the right one, could be wrong), didnt tiger himself say that was the best shot hes ever hit?

[sean_miller]

I think a "great" shot has to have some element of difficulty to it - be it the club that the player is using (e.g. Jack's 1-iron), a difficult lie, holing out when it's absolutely needed or unlikely (e.g. Leonard at the Ryder Cup or Hale Irwins putt at the US Open on #18, Watson's chip-in at Pebble, etc.), or having to take some ludicrous line to the hole like Tiger's filty draw to 10 feet on #9 at Augusta this year.

Can you post a video of Tiger's shot. I don't remember it, but I want to see the part where he drains the putt, because that's what makes it a good shot.

[chriskzoo]

Can you post a video of Tiger's shot. I don't remember it, but I want to see the part where he drains the putt, because that's what makes it a good shot.

This was Round 1 - he made the putt: http://www.masters.com/en_US/players/player_8793.html

[sean_miller]

This was Round 1 - he made the putt:

A great shot in the middle of round 1. Probably trumped by a good shot in the final round by the eventual champion - sorry. Heck, that pine straw shot wasn't even Phil's best shot of the weekend - not even close.

[Jay-Bird]

Now that was a gangsta ass shot.

That was a gangsta ass jump in the pond by the dude in the orange shirt at :32 seconds. lol at the guy behind the orange shirt dude - celebrates the putt for .5 seconds then is like "WTF? are you crazy?"