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[TN94z]

Personal opinion. Funny thing is mine doesn't stray too far from this either.

The message boards are where it's at!! I know from experiece it is where all of the "know it alls" hang out! Anyway, I think enough has been said on my part anyway. I still like the discussions no matter where they lead. I could talk MMA ALL DAY!

[newtogolf]

If Silva was offended by anything Maia said he had every right to walk in the cage and rip him to pieces. As a MMA fighter, the best way to humiliate another fighter is to make him tap or knock him out. Silva didn't do that, he taunted, cursed, made hand gestures, played air guitar and ran away from him most of the fight. If Silva really was offended and wanted to defend his honor and his camps he should have knocked Maia out and left him lying on the mat, drooling all over himself while the cameras zoomed in on Maia's eyes rolled up inside his head. What he did wasn't honorable, and I doubt his school was proud of their student during that fight.

[TN94z]

If Silva was offended by anything Maia said he had every right to walk in the cage and rip him to pieces. As a MMA fighter, the best way to humiliate another fighter is to make him tap or knock him out. Silva didn't do that, he taunted, cursed, made hand gestures, played air guitar and ran away from him most of the fight. If Silva really was offended and wanted to defend his honor and his camps he should have knocked Maia out and left him lying on the mat, drooling all over himself while the cameras zoomed in on Maia's eyes rolled up inside his head. What he did wasn't honorable, and I doubt his school was proud of their student during that fight.

Every person has different ways of doing it. He was for sure not going to the ground, for good reason. I agree that his antics in that fight were a little uncalled for but they didn't make me lose any respect. I just chalked it up to trying to get in maia's head so he would engage. Nick Diaz does pretty much the same thing every fight and yet I live watching him fight too. I'm not taking up for Anderson in any way. I just think if its a big deal us to be made, it should be made for every fighter that does it. But I can see where people could get a bad taste for him.

[newtogolf]

I have great respect for Silva's skills, he's obviously a talented person, but not a fighter that I'd cheer for given his antics during that fight. The Diaz brothers, Semtex, and even Koschek fall in and out of the same category for me, great respect as MMA fighters, not so much in representing the true spirit of martial artists.

I appreciate your point about the differences between martial artists and MMA fighters. I don't believe that because they use their teachings to fight for money they do not have the responsibility to still represent their school with honor and dignity.

[TN94z]

I appreciate your point about the differences between martial artists and MMA fighters. I don't believe that because they use their teachings to fight for money they do not have the responsibility to still represent their school with honor and dignity.

I'm not saying I think that either, I am just saying that everyone makes this big deal out of honor and respect for some fighters but seem to let it slide for others. Wrestlers aren't held to the same respect standards as say a top level BJJ guy or karate guy. That's where I was going with that.

[clubchamp]

GSP has no chance. He is much smaller and does less on the ground than Sonnen. I don't know why everyone wants to see this fight. I like GSP and have for a long time, but I don't think he has a shot against Silva. Look at what happened to Penn when he fought GSP. It will be the same situation when GSP fights Anderson. The weight classes aren't the same as they used to be. When you jump "up" to a weight class, you are automatically at a disadvantage because the guys that are in that class could fight the class above if they wanted to.

The last GSP fight he walked into the cage weighing 192 and Silva went in at 195. I think Silva could push it back up to 205 before fight time but GSP couldn't get over 195. I don't think that the 10lbs would make the fight very one sided. I did hear a story about Silva walking around at 215 - 220 but that was before his 205 fight. My point is I don't think there would be a huge weight disparity between them and it would be a very good fight. I'm pretty sure it will never happen because of the difference in age if Silva wants to go out on top he would have to fight GSP in one of his next 3 fights.

[TN94z]

The last GSP fight he walked into the cage weighing 192 and Silva went in at 195. I think Silva could push it back up to 205 before fight time but GSP couldn't get over 195. I don't think that the 10lbs would make the fight very one sided. I did hear a story about Silva walking around at 215 - 220 but that was before his 205 fight. My point is I don't think there would be a huge weight disparity between them and it would be a very good fight. I'm pretty sure it will never happen because of the difference in age if Silva wants to go out on top he would have to fight GSP in one of his next 3 fights.

GSP walks around at 190. Anderson walks around at 220. That's a 30lb difference which is pretty big.

[clubchamp]

GSP walks around at 190. Anderson walks around at 220. That's a 30lb difference which is pretty big.

What Silva walks around at and what he enters the cage at are two different things. If you do the percentages on what you are saying that Silva cuts 35lbs of water weight before a fight it would nearly kill him to do it. He would be cutting 25% of his water weight to make 185 15% is fatal. Silva has said he has to diet to make 185 it's not uncommon but he doesn't go back to 220 before fight time he usually goes in around 195-205. GSP has a constant diet and always hovers around 190-195 so it's easier for him to make weight. I'm not saying it gives either an advantage or disadvantage but there won't be a huge weight disparity that everyone thinks. If anything Silva has the advantage based on height and reach plus he's a great striker so I think that's a bigger factor than weight.

[TN94z]

What Silva walks around at and what he enters the cage at are two different things. If you do the percentages on what you are saying that Silva cuts 35lbs of water weight before a fight it would nearly kill him to do it. He would be cutting 25% of his water weight to make 185 15% is fatal. Silva has said he has to diet to make 185 it's not uncommon but he doesn't go back to 220 before fight time he usually goes in around 195-205. GSP has a constant diet and always hovers around 190-195 so it's easier for him to make weight. I'm not saying it gives either an advantage or disadvantage but there won't be a huge weight disparity that everyone thinks. If anything Silva has the advantage based on height and reach plus he's a great striker so I think that's a bigger factor than weight.

I never said that he comes into fight night at that weight. I said he walks around at that weight. Alves walks around at like 215 and cuts to 170. How do you explain that one? Anderson has also said he could make 170 if he wanted...Anderson's skill level on top of the weight difference means GSP hasn't got a good chance at winning. Weight makes a big difference...otherwise, fighters wouldn't put their bodies through hell to cut weight and be the bigger fighter fight night.

Personally, I agree with Bas in the fact that a fighter would fight more efficiently at his natural weight. I don't have personal experience on that one, but I see his point. And I definitely agree with you that the weight difference wouldn't make it a one sided fight but it would make a difference. It really just depends on what weight they would fight at. Right now, it would be a catch weight. If GSP moves up, then it would be a better fight because GSP would take the time needed to put on the weight correctly. But GSP has said if he goes to MW then he will never go back to 170. I would like to see him make the move. WW has nothing else for him after Kos and Fitch. Both guys he has beaten already

[clubchamp]

I never said that he comes into fight night at that weight. I said he walks around at that weight. Alves walks around at like 215 and cuts to 170. How do you explain that one? Anderson has also said he could make 170 if he wanted...Anderson's skill level on top of the weight difference means GSP hasn't got a good chance at winning. Weight makes a big difference...otherwise, fighters wouldn't put their bodies through hell to cut weight and be the bigger fighter fight night.

I agree that GSP should eventually move up but I don't think he will make that move period. I mean if he wants to really fight 185 he would need to push his weight up to 200ish and then he probably couldn't get back down to 170 without a long lay off.

[TN94z]

I agree that GSP should eventually move up but I don't think he will make that move period. I mean if he wants to really fight 185 he would need to push his weight up to 200ish and then he probably couldn't get back down to 170 without a long lay off.

He says he could put the weight on easy to go to 185. But, like you said, it would take forever to get back to 170. That's why he said if he decides to make the move, then he would never fight at 170 again because it's just too hard to get back to that weight. The way he talks, it's getting really hard to cut to 170 and that he is eventually going to have to go to 185.

[ap2g]

He says he could put the weight on easy to go to 185. But, like you said, it would take forever to get back to 170. That's why he said if he decides to make the move, then he would never fight at 170 again because it's just too hard to get back to that weight. The way he talks, it's getting really hard to cut to 170 and that he is eventually going to have to go to 185.

He is already one, if not THE, biggest guys in the 170 weight division. He wouldn't have a hard time getting to 185! He prob walks around around that weight!

[TN94z]

He is already one, if not THE, biggest guys in the 170 weight division. He wouldn't have a hard time getting to 185! He prob walks around around that weight!

Oh I agree. It's getting to 170 that is becoming the problem

[ap2g]

Oh I agree. It's getting to 170 that is becoming the problem

Do you think the UFC will ever put on the "Superfight" GSP vs. A.Silva? There has been many rumors, but nothing actually annouced.

I think it will happen once they have both had great careers, and are already at the end of their careers. Kind of like the Hughes/Gracie fight...

[newtogolf]

Do you think the UFC will ever put on the "Superfight" GSP vs. A.Silva? There has been many rumors, but nothing actually annouced.

It might happen, since as fighters get older it gets tougher to cut weight. The problem is Silva has already considered moving up and GSP would then have to move up two weight classes which I don't think he will do.

[ap2g]

It might happen, since as fighters get older it gets tougher to cut weight. The problem is Silva has already considered moving up and GSP would then have to move up two weight classes which I don't think he will do.

I think Silva is considering moving up because of the competition in his weight level right now...he has already destroyed mostly everyone in his weight class...and im sure he could cut weight one last time to face GSP!

[TN94z]

Do you think the UFC will ever put on the "Superfight" GSP vs. A.Silva? There has been many rumors, but nothing actually annouced.

It depends. If GSP decides to go to MW and leave WW behind, then there is a chance obviously. That will be a hard decision for GSP to make. This also depends on both guys keeping their winning streak alive....otherwise, the fight will lose some magic. As long as GSP doesn't get tired of doing it, his career will outlast Anderson's, IMO

It might happen, since as fighters get older it gets tougher to cut weight. The problem is Silva has already considered moving up and GSP would then have to move up two weight classes which I don't think he will do.

Anderson says that MW is his home and anyone that wants to fight him will have to come to him. He was saying all kinds of things a long time ago about fighting Brock and going to WW and fighting GSP, but he has since said that he will stay at MW and keep defending the title there.

[newtogolf]

Anderson says that MW is his home and anyone that wants to fight him will have to come to him. He was saying all kinds of things a long time ago about fighting Brock and going to WW and fighting GSP, but he has since said that he will stay at MW and keep defending the title there.

I'm not sure I take anything Anderson says at face value. Soares is directing his career and they will go where Dana offers him the most money to fight within reason. I can't see Anderson making it to heavyweight to fight Brock, but LH is an option and if he can cut weight so is WW. No one is going to pass up a huge pay day especially if Dana doesn't require they vacate their title to do it.