Cheaters you have see on the golf course, tournaments or otherwise

[Lihu]

3 minutes ago, jbishop15 said:

On the very next hole, I'm on the green in two about 70 feet away from the hole. I read the putt (well, as much as you can when it's that far away), and with the pin still in, I hit the putt. The putt, unbelievably, hit the pin and fell in for a birdie three. 

Etiquette-wise, he should have been pulling the flag for you since you were putting from 70 feet away. . .

[graham57]

38 minutes ago, Fourputt said:

I missed an 8" putt in a Men's club match once, and I was a 10 handicap at the time.  I've also hit from many a footprint in bunkers - just part of the game when you play public courses most of your life.  After all bunkers aren't called hazards just for fun.  No guarantees.

Is it really true that this issue is worse on public courses? I play at a private members' club and am continually aggravated by unraked bunkers. To my thinking, it has more to do with the people playing, than private/public. We have a lot of very egoistical individuals, who seem to feel that raking bunkers is somehow "beneath" them.

[Fourputt]

1 hour ago, graham57 said:

Is it really true that this issue is worse on public courses? I play at a private members' club and am continually aggravated by unraked bunkers. To my thinking, it has more to do with the people playing, than private/public. We have a lot of very egoistical individuals, who seem to feel that raking bunkers is somehow "beneath" them.

I'm not sure that it's worse per capita, but in general there are more players on public courses, so it follows that there are more jackasses who don't rake bunkers or repair divot and pitch marks.

[Dave2512]

My experience is its a cost thing. The course that's $11 is horribly maintained compared to the private club I play. 

[Lihu]

9 hours ago, Dave2512 said:

My experience is its a cost thing. The course that's $11 is horribly maintained compared to the private club I play. 

The semi-private and private courses I've played are quite nice. They seem to have the grounds keepers go out and rake the bunkers, and groups are spaced out nicely.

[Missouri Swede]

On December 4, 2015 at 5:47:24 PM, inthehole said:

The one rule I knowingly break is when my ball lands in a footprint of a bunker ... happens seemingly every other time I find myself in a bunker on the crappy mini's I play that nobody rakes.  I feel I should not be penalized for someone else's carelessness.

I know what you mean. I played today, and there were footprints all over the bunkers. 

Stupid deer ... 

[Fourputt]

1 hour ago, Missouri Swede said:

I know what you mean. I played today, and there were footprints all over the bunkers. 

Stupid deer ... 

It appears that a new local rule will be available allowing relief from animal hoofprints in bunkers (but not from jackass players), but only if the local rule is adopted by the committee.  The USGA's currently available documents don't provide the actual decision so I don't know the full wording, but I assume that it will be lift, smooth, then drop.

I don't know if that will provide for the sometimes deep footprints left by coyotes around here.

[bones75]

I actually think karma works a lot of the time.  The first time in a round when i catch someone cheating, I make it known either by a 100% clear glare or scoff, but I intentionally don't call them out on it... i.e. I let them record their B.S. score that hole.  From here, I find that they they know they've been caught and they tend to play worse.  Now if they do keep doing it AND I'm losing ground in the match, I do start calling them out.  But again, almost all the time I find them falling apart when they "know" they've been caught, even if I don't assess them the penalty the first time.