S&T Swing: Need help shortening backswing...

[bpschmid]

Iacas, Mvmac, Dave, etc...any suggestions or "feelings" you have to stay short of parallel at top of backswing? Thanks fellas.

[Zeph]

Since I'm working on the same myself, I'll just put up some links for now. Do you have a video of your swing by the way? Makes things a lot easier if we see what we are commenting on.

http://thesandtrap.com/forum/threads...l=1#post529349
http://thesandtrap.com/forum/threads...fting-the-Arms

[uttexas]

If you feel as though your right elbow/tricep stays attached to your right torso during the backswing, you should stay short of parallel.

[iacas]

Best feeling is that your right arm - yeah, your right arm - doesn't bend. Ever. At all.

Without seeing your swing though it's tough to say if that's the precise answer. You could have some other things going on.

[bwdial]

Best feeling is that your right arm - yeah, your right arm - doesn't bend. Ever. At all.

I'm trying to wrap my mind around that.

[Tiger Spuds]

I'm trying to wrap my mind around that.

Yeah, I don't understand that either?

And Uttexas is right. If you keep your right elbow tight to your torso, it will shorten the swing. I used to keep my elbow very close to my torso. As you can see, doing that also really flattens the swing which can cause it's own problems. It'd be interesting to see what position your elbow is at. Less wrist hinge in the backswing will shorten it too.

[iacas]

And Uttexas is right. If you keep your right elbow tight to your torso, it will shorten the swing.

Not necessarily, no. You can easily keep the "right elbow" on your torso and still just bend your right elbow nearly 180°. That's not a "shorter" swing.

In the picture you posted, you've "overswung" but not the way you seem to think. You've "overswung" because you've overflexed your trail arm elbow.

Yeah, I don't understand that either?

I said it was a feeling.

"Long" swings almost all occur because the trail arm (right arm on a righty) overflexes. If you feel like it never bends, it's not gonna overflex. So feel like you take your backswing without the trail arm bending. Or, if it does bend a little, that you're trying to straighten it by pushing a little.

[Tiger Spuds]

You can easily keep the "right elbow" on your torso and still just bend your right elbow nearly 180°. That's not a "shorter" swing.

I don't think I could.. but maybe I'm just not flexible.

I said it was a feeling.

That makes sense.

[mvmac]

Just adding to what others have said,
- feeling the elbows close together throughout the backswing, if they separate too much the arms can over-flex and lift. similar to what iacas suggested, make sure the right arm doesn't flex past 90*.
- feeling left arm swing across the chest, parallel to the ground. Like the left arm never gets above the pecs.
- making sure the right knee straightens and the hips turn on a slant. If the knee stays flexed the hands will go straighter back and up rather than inward.
- try this drill, two alignment sticks taped together,

[bpschmid]

Thanks boys...as usual, you were right on Iacas. I was constantly trying to keep that right tricep "attached" to my right side, and over flexing past 90 degrees. That feeling of not bending my right arm at all gets me much closer to the model....thanks to all...