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Like I said earlier, it's easier to me to blade a wedge because I tend get my putter caught up in the grass. That doesn't happen so much when I blade a wedge.

I'm not talking about hitting a shot where the ball is in the longer grass. Read my whole post or don't try to quote me. In the bit that you quoted I was only referring to the OP's original post, which said only that he was playing from the fringe. No way my putter gets caught up in grass in that situation.

If you read my first comment in the post you half quoted, I say the same thing you just did. It's the same shot that Sean Miller just posted about too. I think that we are all in agreement about that being an appropriate use of the bladed wedge.

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The one reason a blade wedge is easier in my mind is that you can achieve consistent distance control over the fringe or even light rought because the ball is skipping over the surface of the fringe or light rough, in other words distance control is easier to judge and the only practice you need is to know how far the ball will travel.

The ball always skid initially, even when using a putter. To make the ball roll later, you'd have to put more backspin on it, which you can do by hitting more down with the putter. You can even hover the putter so the lowest point is leve with the equator of the ball, pretty much the same as a bladed wedge, but you got a larger face to hit it with.

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You can probably putt well with a headcover if you practice it enough, but that doesn't mean it is the easiest way to putt.

Yea. I agree. Why not blade a 4 iron or a 7 iron.


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Played a round today and reporting on my bladed wedges during the round. I had 6 total attempts with the bladed wedge to save par and converted 5 times including one of my best from 9 feet of fringe and 6 feet of green and bladed wedge into the hole to save par.

I was 6 out of 10 attempts total for my up and down with 31 putts and shot 10 over.

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I blade a lot of my wedges... which is why I'm a 14.6.

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Played a round today and reporting on my bladed wedges during the round. I had 6 total attempts with the bladed wedge to save par and converted 5 times including one of my best from 9 feet of fringe and 6 feet of green and bladed wedge into the hole to save par.

Which still isn't saying that anyone using a more conventional approach couldn't have done the same, or better. I got up and down at least 6 times yesterday and never bladed a wedge (thankfully

). It's certainly a shot everyone should have in the bag, but that still doesn't make it a shot that should be over used, any more than a player should hit a flop every time they're in that situation. Different shots, different clubs for different situations.

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Putter, nice little trick is to place the ball back in the stance and then forward press a bit and hit down on the ball with a putter stroke. The ball pops out of the rough nice and gets rolling. I use this around the green when i am just in the rough.

Blading wedges, its an interesting idea, if you can pull it off then why not.

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It's certainly a shot everyone should have in the bag, but that still doesn't make it a shot that should be over used, any more than a player should hit a flop every time they're in that situation. Different shots, different clubs for different situations.

My thoughts exactly. Blading a wedge 6 times in a single round seems excessive to me.

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My thoughts exactly. Blading a wedge 6 times in a single round seems excessive to me.

Based on his numbers, his up and down conversion percentage (83%) was better with a bladed wedge that his other opportunities (25%).

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Based on his numbers, his up and down conversion percentage (83%) was better with a bladed wedge that his other opportunities (25%).

That's because he loves to play that shot and hence has more confidence in it. It's like players who choose only to use a PW around the green and it becomes the only shot they can play. I (and fourputt it would seem) espouse a different approach where a person becomes proficient with a variety of different shots. IMO, it is extremely odd that you would find as many as 6 separate situations during a single round of golf that require the use of a bladed sound wedge. Just label me oddly conventional I guess.

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That's because he loves to play that shot and hence has more confidence in it. It's like players who choose only to use a PW around the green and it becomes the only shot they can play. I (and fourputt it would seem) espouse a different approach where a person becomes proficient with a variety of different shots. IMO, it is extremely odd that you would find as many as 6 separate situations during a single round of golf that require the use of a bladed sound wedge. Just label me oddly conventional I guess.

I suspect he was testing a theory - seems like an analytical sort of fellow.

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I suspect he was testing a theory - seems like an analytical sort of fellow.

Silly me, I thought that was what the practice green was for.

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Well depends, like the other day when the golf course was empty, no one behind me, i would practice around the greens, hit shots again, ect.. I reallly don't play serious golf when i am just out for fun, i leave that for league play.

Blading is an interesting shot, i use to do it, but i like using my putter more.

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I used the putter from the fringe but I have more success with the blade wedge, when I chip at the practice area, I blade all my balls back to the hitting area so I get alot of practice and it has become a go to shot for me.

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