Let singles through please!!!!!

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by ohiolefty

There's no reason not to let a faster group of players, regardless of number, through unless the whole course is jammed and there's no way to go. If someone's a single and it's slow...you might as well invite them to join, even if you're a foursome. At least, for the single, they'll get to hit their shots in a more normal rhythym once each whole 'starts'.

I know that some folks, like me, aren't as irritated by waiting to hit tee shots as they are for approach shots. For a lot of people, once they hit their drive and the whole 'starts', they want to play in a normal to brisk manner.

Good points, but some courses simply will not allow a group of 5 to remain together.  My home course will allow fivesomes, but only under very specific conditions.  I'm thinking that if the group of 5 is keeping up with the traffic on a crowded course then those conditions might be overlooked in this situation.  I'm with you in that I really hate waiting more than a minute or so in the fairway.  I can practice chipping or whatever when we're waiting on the tee.

[ohiolefty]

Originally Posted by Fourputt

Good points, but some courses simply will not allow a group of 5 to remain together.  My home course will allow fivesomes, but only under very specific conditions.  I'm thinking that if the group of 5 is keeping up with the traffic on a crowded course then those conditions might be overlooked in this situation.  I'm with you in that I really hate waiting more than a minute or so in the fairway.  I can practice chipping or whatever when we're waiting on the tee.

If the course is jammed up...most places aren't going to mind it. Condensing groups, even if it ends up a fivesome, is better than having 2 seperate groupings stuck in the traffic jam. Some courses won't allow it under any circumstances. But USUALLY, those courses have their sh*t together enough to not run into traffic jam conditions; it is rather difficult to account for unrepentant idiocy, though.

[GaijinGolfer]

Amen to that.  Nothing makes me crazy on the golf course more than when the group ahead sees Im a single and see that Im waiting on them and refuses to allow me to play through.

[2bGood]

Originally Posted by walk18

Wow I see a lot of people here have "no sympathy" for singles. I don't think singles are looking for sympathy, they're just looking to play through. I mean would it really ruin your day to let a single through when the course is empty? Christ.

problem is at times you may 7 or 8 singles playing through

[newtogolf]

Depends on the single golfer too.  Last year we let a single ahead of us on the first tee.  He was horrible, worse than I am.  I pick up after reaching double par, this guy was 5 & 6 putting.  Numerous times we had to help him find his ball just so to reduce our wait.  Thankfully he only played the front nine.

[Fourputt]

I played alone today - first round of the year.  The course was nearly deserted, but there were enough players that I had to play through 3 groups on the front and one on the back nine.  They were all aware of my approach from the rear and each group immediately waved me through.  Very civilized.  I played 18 holes in just under 2 hours.

[golf4fun12]

as like fourputt, I played today by myself cause the courses in socal where empty. I played through 3 groups and each one let me play through, even though I was walking.

[alo1984]

You know there are too many people out there who just act like complete D Bags on the golf course and I imagine that translates to their everyday lives too.  People, let the faster group through for heavens sake!  Why does it matter if it's a single or a foursome?  If they are clearly playing faster than you and there is an open hole ahead, then let them through!  This takes minimal time and effort on your part, not to mention it is polite and just a stand up thing to do.

I've seen too many pig headed, arrogant SOB's hold their place in front because of some sort of entitlement attitude or something it's just ridiculous.  I've been embarrassed to be paired with guys like that on several occasions.

The game becomes far too stressful when guys start jockeying for position.

And ladies I haven't mentioned you yet, but you are usually the worst offenders.  I don't know if it's due to ignorance or just indifference but chicks seem to be pretty bad about this too.

[golf4fun12]

not only letting singles play through. but if there are 2 or more groups waiting on a par 3. wave up!!

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by golf4fun12

not only letting singles play through. but if there are 2 or more groups waiting on a par 3. wave up!!

On most par 3 holes this doesn't help anything.  It has been tested and analyzed, and except in particular cases, there is nothing gained in overall playing time.  Most often it just results in a longer wait on the next tee.

My home course used to have this policy until they did an actual experiment, timing groups during peak times over a three hole stretch which started with one of the par 3 holes where this was thought to help.

The result?  They actually came up with a shorter playing time for those three holes when the following group was NOT waved up.... only by an average of 45 seconds, but it showed that the policy was bogus.

[golf4fun12]

Originally Posted by Fourputt

On most par 3 holes this doesn't help anything.  It has been tested and analyzed, and except in particular cases, there is nothing gained in overall playing time.  Most often it just results in a longer wait on the next tee.

My home course used to have this policy until they did an actual experiment, timing groups during peak times over a three hole stretch which started with one of the par 3 holes where this was thought to help.

The result?  They actually came up with a shorter playing time for those three holes when the following group was NOT waved up.... only by an average of 45 seconds, but it showed that the policy was bogus.

I'm surprised by that. if this is so, why would every golf course I have ever played on have always told me to wave up if 2 or more groups are waiting on the tee. I would say it does make a difference, even if a small one. but if you have scientific proof, hard to argue with that

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by golf4fun12

I'm surprised by that. if this is so, why would every golf course I have ever played on have always told me to wave up if 2 or more groups are waiting on the tee. I would say it does make a difference, even if a small one. but if you have scientific proof, hard to argue with that

Even if it was faster to wave groups up, which it isn't, the annoyance factor makes it a bad idea. Whether you hit the green or miss it and have to chip on, there's a certain rhythm to playing a hole that's incosistent with stepping aside and waving the next group up. It's also annoying to have to hit up to a green where 4 or so people are standing just off the green glaring at you.

[Fourputt]

Originally Posted by golf4fun12

I'm surprised by that. if this is so, why would every golf course I have ever played on have always told me to wave up if 2 or more groups are waiting on the tee. I would say it does make a difference, even if a small one. but if you have scientific proof, hard to argue with that

I won't argue that some courses still do it, but that doesn't make it an effective tactic.  It just means that they never bothered to crunch the numbers.  They are still buying into the myth.

[golf4fun12]

I guess it doesn't really matter. Just sucks to have to wait sometimes 20 minutes to hit a ball. now that will take you out of rhythm

[Michael Phelps]

That sucks man, if there is space ahead ill always let single's play through, i feel less rushed therefor playing better. For all those who say singles should be auto paired with people i disagree, with how expensive golf is i should be able to play by myself if i wish, and alot of times i do, it allows me to relax and clear my head. If the group in front of me doesnt offer to let me play through im fine with it, im never in a rush when im golfing. ill normally just sit back, drink my beer and take a few tokes.

[ajschn06]

YES YES YES!  Most people don't go out to a restraunt by themselves, but if you did, they wouldn't make you sit with another family....

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by ajschn06

YES YES YES!  Most people don't go out to a restraunt by themselves, but if you did, they wouldn't make you sit with another family....

Yeah no doubt!

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by ajschn06

YES YES YES!  Most people don't go out to a restraunt by themselves, but if you did, they wouldn't make you sit with another family....

No, but if it's busy, they probably wouldn't give the VIP room or the big booth in the corner either. Analogies are fun.