Rory's Final Round Jitters

[franky21]

I am a little shocked on how Rory has performed in the final round these last two weeks.He didn't play bad in his last tourny just not good enough. I keep hearing people say he is still young and still has alot of golf ahead of him. I do think he will  win a major, but how do we know how he is mentally when he is contending in the final round of  a major. He could be another Greg Norman and just have alot of second place finishes. Not being able to close it out on sunday is a problem for him. He has the talent and has a beautiful swing but it's more then just skill and mechanics. I guess only time will tell how he can control his nerves and get the job done. I guess we have been spoiled with what Tiger did at such a young age and expect every young stud to start winning at a rapid pace. What do you guys think of Rory and his final round woes?

[Shorty]

Originally Posted by franky21

I am a little shocked on how Rory has performed in the final round these last two weeks

Yes - Quite shocking that he only managed to birdie 6 of the final 11 holes in Malaysia in his 4th round.

[jamo]

Originally Posted by franky21

I guess we have been spoiled with what Tiger did at such a young age and expect every young stud to start winning at a rapid pace.

This. I think some people get distracted with the fact that Tiger has been in a slump, and lose sight of the fact that no matter what your opinion of Tiger, 14 majors is no minor feat. I don't think we can expect every young gun to play as well as he did right off the bat.

[boogielicious]

It comes down to one or two mistakes or mishits in tournaments to determine who the winner will be on Sunday.  In the Masters, you can't make too many mistakes on the last day.  Rory made one and let it get to him.  In Malaysia, another player just played better on the final 9.  On the 18th, he was being agressive because he was behind.

Will he win a major?  Who knows.  there have been lots of phenoms who came out and played great at a young age and haven't won a major.

[franky21]

Originally Posted by boogielicious

It comes down to one or two mistakes or mishits in tournaments to determine who the winner will be on Sunday.  In the Masters, you can't make too many mistakes on the last day.  Rory made one and let it get to him.  In Malaysia, another player just played better on the final 9.  On the 18th, he was being agressive because he was behind.

Will he win a major?  Who knows.  there have been lots of phenoms who came out and played great at a young age and haven't won a major.

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Originally Posted by Shorty

Yes - Quite shocking that he only managed to birdie 6 of the final 11 holes in Malaysia in his 4th round.

Rory double-bogeyed the 12th hole sunday,needed to birdie the par-5 finishing hole to force a playoff with the eventual winner Matteo, but three-putted for bogey instead. So yes it is quite shocking that he yet again screwed himself on sunday.

[topspin4hand]

A thread about Rory's closing ability or Final Round nerves is a fair question to ask.  He's had a 4-stroke lead and a 3-stroke lead after 54 holes in the last couple tourneys and hasn't won them (and a couple other 54 hole leads in his career that weren't converted).  On the flipside, you can look at the situation and say, "wow, the kid has led 2 incredible fields after 54 holes ... quite an accomplishment."

IMO, he just needs some better cues to regulate his final round putting.  That's the stat that's consistently the final round stat that slips for him. I think his mentality will help him get over this hump more than his talent. But again, it's a fair question to toss around.

[Zeph]

Give him time. Takes time getting used to being in the lead on Sunday. I haven't registered this as a bigger problem for Rory than others.

[Shorty]

Originally Posted by franky21

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Rory double-bogeyed the 12th hole sunday,needed to birdie the par-5 finishing hole to force a playoff with the eventual winner Matteo, but three-putted for bogey instead. So yes it is quite shocking that he yet again screwed himself on sunday.

He buried himself in a bunker on 12.

Manassero played a great closing round.

He has a bogey and a double bogey as well as 5 birdies in the last eleven holes.

"Screwed himself", eh?

Go back and look at the last 1000 golf tournaments and see how many people leading after 54 holes end up not winning.

It is hardly cause for anyone's concern.

You really seem to be a "glass is half empty" kind of person, looking for negatives when it's mainly positive.

[deasy55]

Originally Posted by franky21

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Rory double-bogeyed the 12th hole sunday,needed to birdie the par-5 finishing hole to force a playoff with the eventual winner Matteo, but three-putted for bogey instead. So yes it is quite shocking that he yet again screwed himself on sunday.

The reason he 3 putted for bogey is because he was going for the win and made an agressive first putt. If he had gently rolled his putt towards the hole and left it a foot short and tapped it in it would have been worse than that 3 putt. The hole was over 620 yards too with the smallest fairway I have ever seen on a par 5 so it's not like it's a typical 'expect a tap in birdie' par 5.

He was 4 behind with 5 to play and birdied 14, 16 and 17 and gave himself a chance on 18 so fair play to him.

[sbasson]

Hi there,

Let me tell you something about winning tournaments, I dont know if you ever had the priviladge to be in a position to win even a weekday club competition?

Winning is a habit as is losing! Your right, Tiger did put a statement on closing out tournaments. Now in the case of Rory, him being able to get himself into positions to win such big events so early in his career is exactly why so many people say he is just young still! The guys he is competing against are guys that have been playing for years and know what to expect when they get into a position to win! Rory needs to make mistakes and these high numbers in the last round to understand what your body goes through, NOT JUST THE MIND! his mind is strong enough because he has won before.... But strange things happen when adrenalin takes toll of the body, and it does not matter how clear you think, its the physical things you go through that causes mishaps!

I shot 29 (-7) on the last 9 in the 2007 Zambia Open to defend the tournament and win again, bacause i knew what my body was going to go through and then having a positive mind (Like Rory has) helped me to win again.

It is very difficult to explain what happens to a professional player during a tournament, the best you can do is to keep supporting these top players and learn how they get through the hard times!

I promise they dont even hear or care what amateur players think or say, They know how to play and make millions doing it wrong then!

Steve.

Originally Posted by franky21

I am a little shocked on how Rory has performed in the final round these last two weeks.He didn't play bad in his last tourny just not good enough. I keep hearing people say he is still young and still has alot of golf ahead of him. I do think he will  win a major, but how do we know how he is mentally when he is contending in the final round of  a major. He could be another Greg Norman and just have alot of second place finishes. Not being able to close it out on sunday is a problem for him. He has the talent and has a beautiful swing but it's more then just skill and mechanics. I guess only time will tell how he can control his nerves and get the job done. I guess we have been spoiled with what Tiger did at such a young age and expect every young stud to start winning at a rapid pace. What do you guys think of Rory and his final round woes?

[sbasson]

I agree, Rory has lots to be happy about! You would love people to tell you you screwed yourself and earn half what he does!!!! You could only be so tough on him if you never had even the slightest opportunity to face one of those rounds!

Steve

[sean_miller]

Tom Watson had the 54 hole lead in back to back US Opens and didn't have great Sundays. That was before he won his first major - his first of 8. I think Rory will be okay.

[newtogolf]

Originally Posted by sbasson

It is very difficult to explain what happens to a professional player during a tournament, the best you can do is to keep supporting these top players and learn how they get through the hard times!

Steve.

Nice to get a different perspective, a perspective from someone who's actually been there.  You see it in every sport, but the magnifying glass is more on individual player sports because there's no one else to take the spotlight off them like in team sports.  Rory is a talented player, and at the rate he's going he'll have plenty of experience at the top of the leader board and he'll learn to get his nerves and adrenaline under control.

[franky21]

Originally Posted by newtogolf

Nice to get a different perspective, a perspective from someone who's actually been there.  You see it in every sport, but the magnifying glass is more on individual player sports because there's no one else to take the spotlight off them like in team sports.  Rory is a talented player, and at the rate he's going he'll have plenty of experience at the top of the leader board and he'll learn to get his nerves and adrenaline under control.

I agree he is very talented and i think he will win enough to put these meltdowns to rest. But he is just very good and has such a beautiful swing you expect a player of his caliber to clutch it out. He was in total control of the masters he looked so good it was just scary. So to finish the way he did you need to at least think of where he is mentally. He was in the same position this weekend and three putted the last par five. If you know Rory you know he eats up the par fives so to see him three putt that green was kind of sad to see. I love his game and really expected him to win last weekend and to see him fold at the end left me scratching my head. I hope he can put it together and win because i am a huge fan of Rory.

[franky21]

Originally Posted by sbasson

I agree, Rory has lots to be happy about! You would love people to tell you you screwed yourself and earn half what he does!!!! You could only be so tough on him if you never had even the slightest opportunity to face one of those rounds!

Steve

I get what your saying Steve, there job is to compete at the highest level and Rory just isn't a let's say Steve Elkington. I understand if he did it once but it happened in two consecutive golf tournaments. You just can't say people can't give there opinion because we are not pros. This has nothing to do with what he makes it is about we he has done in the last two weeks. Rory is one of my favorite golfers so i am always pulling for him, i just think this is a very good topic to get opinions on considering what he has been through. It is hard to start a topic on how players are winning because there really isn't any golfers playing consistent right now other then Kuchar which is a total different topic.

[franky21]

Originally Posted by Shorty

He buried himself in a bunker on 12.

Manassero played a great closing round.

He has a bogey and a double bogey as well as 5 birdies in the last eleven holes.

"Screwed himself", eh?

Go back and look at the last 1000 golf tournaments and see how many people leading after 54 holes end up not winning.

It is hardly cause for anyone's concern.

You really seem to be a "glass is half empty" kind of person, looking for negatives when it's mainly positive.

I really can't figure out what your issue with me is. Everytime i start a topic you find the need to write something negative about me. I try to brush it off because i don't want to scoop to your level. It is quite annoying when you always find the need to get off topic and personally attack me. Is it possible to stay on topic and leave the negativity out of it. The forum is here to share thoughts on different things on the sport we all love. You don't have to agree with me but i really don't see the reason for the insults. I don't want to block you cause i do feel that you have some knowledge on the game that would help me and others on topics. I just really don't want to hear you keep talking negatively about me because you feel the need to. We are all entitled to our own opinions and i don't personally attack you if i don't agree with you. So can you please try to keep it clean and stay on topic. Thx.

[Shorty]

I really can't figure out what your issue with me is. Everytime i start a topic you find the need to write something negative about me. I try to brush it off because i don't want to scoop to your level. It is quite annoying when you always find the need to get off topic and personally attack me. Is it possible to stay on topic and leave the negativity out of it. The forum is here to share thoughts on different things on the sport we all love. You don't have to agree with me but i really don't see the reason for the insults. I don't want to block you cause i do feel that you have some knowledge on the game that would help me and others on topics. I just really don't want to hear you keep talking negatively about me because you feel the need to. We are all entitled to our own opinions and i don't personally attack you if i don't agree with you. So can you please try to keep it clean and stay on topic. Thx.

My issue is that you describe Rory's final round in Malaysia as a "meltown" and a "screwup". And you think that the Euro tour is for wannabe PGA Tour players. Your "opinions" are based on prejudice and ignorance. I'm waiting on you to start a thread where you wonder about Schwartzel's ability to follow up a Major win.

[franky21]

Originally Posted by Shorty

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Originally Posted by franky21

I really can't figure out what your issue with me is. Everytime i start a topic you find the need to write something negative about me. I try to brush it off because i don't want to scoop to your level. It is quite annoying when you always find the need to get off topic and personally attack me. Is it possible to stay on topic and leave the negativity out of it. The forum is here to share thoughts on different things on the sport we all love. You don't have to agree with me but i really don't see the reason for the insults. I don't want to block you cause i do feel that you have some knowledge on the game that would help me and others on topics. I just really don't want to hear you keep talking negatively about me because you feel the need to. We are all entitled to our own opinions and i don't personally attack you if i don't agree with you. So can you please try to keep it clean and stay on topic. Thx.

My issue is that you describe Rory's final round in Malaysia as a "meltown" and a "screwup". And you think that the Euro tour is for wannabe PGA Tour players.

Your "opinions" are based on prejudice and ignorance.

I'm waiting on you to start a thread where you wonder about Schwartzel's ability to follow up a Major win.

So just because you don't agree with me doesn't give you the right to insult me. If you don't like my topics don't respond it is just that simple. You can find me ignorant or stupid that is just fine with me just keep your personal insults to yourself. You really don't need to agree with me, feel free to comment and give your opinion on the subject just keep it clean that's it. I want you to comment on things and i want to hear what you have to say but your personal attacks are just unnecessary. We are all men here let's act mature and respect everyone's opinions that's why we are members to this site.