Release Wrists for a Draw with the Driver

[Kieran123]

If a human being can time the exact moment to 'release' the wrists at impact every time they want to hit a draw - they are part machine.

[inthecup]

IF you have an in to out swing plane and you are still slicing or fading the ball then the club face is open at impact.  I like to think of the back of the front (left in my case) hand relative to the club face.  When I am swinging I try and feel that hand facing the target.  If I am still fading then I try and feel it facing the ground more.  It is not actually facing the ground but a feeling.  This is no way an aggressive move it is the position I want to be in at impact and from there the face gradually rotates around.

Try these feelings at the range and see what happens.  Also in a different experiment strengthen your grip slowly.

I have done the aggressive closing of the club face through rolling of the forearms and when the timing happens to be right it works and I think you can generate some extra club head speed but the 95% of the time you spend in the bushes looking for balls tends to lengthen the round and increase the score.

Good luck!

[iacas]

Originally Posted by inthecup

IF you have an in to out swing plane and you are still slicing or fading the ball then the club face is open at impact.

The thing is, that's virtually nobody. Virtually every slicer starts the ball at the target or left of the target. Almost no slicers start the ball right of the target, because those guys quickly learn to play any kind of golf at all the ball better start left since it's gonna curve right.

[inthecup]

I resemble that remark!  I will confess that I recently added a loop at the top of my swing, I think of it as 2 plane but that may be incorrect.

It is a mini Furyk move.  It gets me inside.  Since then I have enjoyed a push draw.  My miss now is overcooking it.  My shoulders do not like to be deep, it hurts.  The loop lets me go back there for a shorter period of time and get inside.

I have to get some video but I think I am confident I am maintaining lag with irons.  I'll have to check on the driver but my ball flight is way down.

Handicap is dropping fast.

[Kieran123]

Originally Posted by inthecup

I resemble that remark!  I will confess that I recently added a loop at the top of my swing, I think of it as 2 plane but that may be incorrect.

It is a mini Furyk move.  It gets me inside.  Since then I have enjoyed a push draw.  My miss now is overcooking it.  My shoulders do not like to be deep, it hurts.  The loop lets me go back there for a shorter period of time and get inside.

I have to get some video but I think I am confident I am maintaining lag with irons.  I'll have to check on the driver but my ball flight is way down.

Handicap is dropping fast.

You been talking to Hank?

[saevel25]

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The thing is, that's virtually nobody. Virtually every slicer starts the ball at the target or left of the target. Almost no slicers start the ball right of the target, because those guys quickly learn to play any kind of golf at all the ball better start left since it's gonna curve right

Thanks for saying virtually, because if i mis it right, and it slices, it is a push slice on an epic level. Heck i use to hit near shanks with out an open swing. So yea its possible thank you ;)

For me, when i hit a draw i don't feel like i am doing anything with my wrists at all. I just return clubhead to ball. The real felling i get is that the club is really pulling me through impact. Thre is no guiding the club, no comming up out of the shot.

[mdl]

Originally Posted by saevel25

Thanks for saying virtually, because if i mis it right, and it slices, it is a push slice on an epic level. Heck i use to hit near shanks with out an open swing. So yea its possible thank you ;)

For me, when i hit a draw i don't feel like i am doing anything with my wrists at all. I just return clubhead to ball. The real felling i get is that the club is really pulling me through impact. Thre is no guiding the club, no comming up out of the shot.

Just a note saevel25, if you're aiming for a slightly in-to-out swing path and your miss is hitting a push slice doesn't necessarily mean that when you miss you're missing with an in-to-out path and a face even more open than your path.  It could well be that your path has become straight in-to-in or even out-to-in,  but you failed to get the face close.

Remember, as has been noted many times on here and I'm sure you've seen, the face direction determines 85% of the direction the ball starts, so if you miss by going slightly out-to-in but the club face remains slightly open to the target line (which is what you would be going for when trying to hit a push draw with your swing line slightly more to the right of the target line than the face), then you could very well still hit a push slice without maintaining the in-to-out swing path you're going for.

In fact, I'd say that of many slicers I've been paired with, while they alternate among the good shots, pull fades, and two different misses, the slice that starts straight and goes hard right, and the hard push slice, the vast vast majority of them do all three of those shots with an over the top swing plane.  It's just that on the push slices they fail even more than usual in getting the face closed.

This is not to say that you couldn't be someone who hits an in-to-out swing plane push slice.  I do that myself from time to time, but usually my misses right have an out-to-in swing plane, even the push-slices.