A swing thought of in-out results in straight tee shots...

[RyderJ]

At least it works for me. Until recently I had always been a bit timid if not downright terrified of hitting a driver off the tee-box. Hitting a 3 wood off the tee had always been a smarter choice for me...until now. I found a video on youtube with a simple drill to ensure that I made an in-out swing with my driver, and it has helped immensely. I will try and find the video again to post the link or post video of myself practicing the drill. Anyways, I say all this to say that if you have a push fade or huge pull fade off the tee and have made several unsuccessful attempts at correcting the problem, this drill may be for you...of course this is also assuming you have some semblance of a golf swing already. Will post the link after I drop the kiddo off at school.

[LankyLefty]

If you approach out to in you'll never hit it strait if you approach in to out you have a chance at hitting it strait.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by LankyLefty

If you approach out to in you'll never hit it strait if you approach in to out you have a chance at hitting it strait.

There are no absolutes.

[Stretch]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

There are no absolutes.

I propose the laws of physics.

If you are hitting the driver on the upswing then -- yes -- you need to swing in-to-out, or right of the target (for a right hander), in order to hit the ball straight.

[RyderJ]

Can't really argue a whole lot with physics...lol

[saevel25]

No but your still attacking from the inside, just rotate the hoop a few degrees, and boom you have an inside to out swing path..

Note, that you can hit it straight on and outside to in swing, just hit a pull and aim your self right of were you want to hit it. Bang, ball goes straight. There is no difference between the two swing paths with regards to hitting it sraight or not. If you have an inside to out swing path, if you want no curve, you will have to hit a push and aim left to get it to go were you want.

[Stretch]

Originally Posted by RyderJ

Can't really argue a whole lot with physics...lol

Knowledge is power!

A more complete explanation from first principles here. Do you have to think about this stuff to play good golf, no. Does it help to know how things are going wrong when they are going wrong, I think so.

[Zeph]

It works for me too. I've already created an in-out swingpath where the SP is pretty much around it's peak if I tee the ball inside my left foot. All I need is a square clubface. Forcing the swingpath is not something I like to do, but whenever I focus on keeping the clubface square to wherever I aim, it seems to be pretty accurate.

[RyderJ]

I will say that my irons have been slightly effected by this swing thought and I am currently forced to play a pull fade with my irons, which is kinda weird. My wedges are as they have always been though, a nice high draw...I suppose a little more time focusing during address will cure my fade with the irons, although I don't necessarily mind the fade.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Stretch

I propose the laws of physics.

If you are hitting the driver on the upswing then -- yes -- you need to swing in-to-out, or right of the target (for a right hander), in order to hit the ball straight.

I try to swing down the line immediately before and after impact. It's probably more feeling than fact, but imho, anyone who consciously tries to swing their driver "in to out" is setting themself up for just as much failure as a player swinging slightly out to in. Probably more. It's true.

[Stretch]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

I try to swing down the line immediately before and after impact. It's probably more feeling than fact, but imho, anyone who consciously tries to swing their driver "in to out" is setting themself up for just as much failure as a player swinging slightly out to in. Probably more. It's true.

Different strokes for different folks. I'm a natural pull hitter and really need to feel like I'm swinging out to first base with the driver to catch it best. Someone who over-curves it left is obviously going to need a different key. But I do think it's important to understand what's going on with the relationship between swing direction/plane and club path.

[RyderJ]

Bingo

Originally Posted by Stretch

Different strokes for different folks. I'm a natural pull hitter and really need to feel like I'm swinging out to first base with the driver to catch it best. Someone who over-curves it left is obviously going to need a different key. But I do think it's important to understand what's going on with the relationship between swing direction/plane and club path.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by Stretch

Different strokes for different folks. I'm a natural pull hitter and really need to feel like I'm swinging out to first base with the driver to catch it best. Someone who over-curves it left is obviously going to need a different key. But I do think it's important to understand what's going on with the relationship between swing direction/plane and club path.

True. It's also important to understand that without the aid of diagrams and visual aids (e.g. a hula hoop) it's almost impossible to distinguish between a very slightly in-to-out path and an out-to-in path: both of which can produce what is essentially a "straight" ball flight.

[RyderJ]

Ha...I wasn't trying to stir up a huge debate on proper training or swing path...I just wanted to share that after years of frustrations off the tee and having tried everything in attempts to correct it, something as simple as changing my swing thought has made all the difference in the world. Obviously it won't work for everyone...I was just saying it worked for me.

[saevel25]

When i stay centered over the ball, and push my right hand through the impact zone i get the club going inside to outside. I heard alot of squaring the back of your left hand. I can't feel that, never have, i am so right hand dominant, i have to feel the impact i want by basically hitting the ball with the palm of my right hand. When i do that, i hit it very good.

Oh, playing a straight ball is a bad idea, i mean, square to your target line. For one reason, you don't know which side ot error on, draw or fade. If you have an inside to out swing path, then you can error on the right and be more accurate. You also give yourself some leeway with how your club face can oriented at impact as well, so you might hit a little draw, a bit draw, or a slight push. Instead of hitting a cut or a draw, or straight. Its harder to aim on the 2nd set of options.

[LankyLefty]

Your target line is a strait line, your swing is an arc, to hit a strait shot you essentially need that arc to be tangent to your target line at the point where the ball is, if you cross over the line you can no longer be tangental to your target line and so you can no longer hit the ball strait.

In order to be tangental you must approach the ball from the inside and NEVER get outside of the ball. So yes there are absolutes and this is one of them.